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ANNOUNCER: Visiting
with Huell Howser

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is made possible
through a generous grant

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from the Ralph M.
Parsons Foundation.

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HUELL HOWSER: It was
one of the grand houses

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of early Los Angeles, the home
of captain G Allan Hancock.

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For years it was a landmark
on the corner of Wilshire

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Boulevard and Vermont.

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Now today the corner
looks a little different.

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The beautiful old
Hancock Mansion

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is gone, replaced by
a metro rail station.

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But wait, the Allan Hancock
Mansion is still here--

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at least that's
what we understand.

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We're here.

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We've gotten a hot tip.

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We have come over here
to the USC campus.

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It's a beautiful day.

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Good morning.

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I'm Huell Howser.

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JERRY CAMPBELL: Huell,
I'm Jerry Campbell.

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I'm the director of the
university libraries

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here, and the chief
information officer.

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Welcome to the University
of Southern California.

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We're always glad to
have you back on campus.

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ANNOUNCER: Boy, it's beautiful
here on the campus today.

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We've got this
beautiful architecture.

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We've got the fountain.

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We've got Tommy Trojan over
there, decorated with balloons

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this morning.

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I guess he's always
decorated with something.

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HUELL HOWSER: He's
decorated somehow.

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At least the colors are right.

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ANNOUNCER: So we're
here on the campus

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because we
understand-- you know,

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we were looking for the
original Hancock Mansion, which

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is one of the most beautiful
homes ever built here

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in Los Angeles.

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We went over there.

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It's gone, been torn down.

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And then one of the
fellows over there

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told us that we should come
over here looking for it.

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JERRY CAMPBELL:
Well, universities

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are surprising places.

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I'm sure you've seen a lot
of the great buildings we

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have here.

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The Hancock Mansion is
in fact, in a way, here.

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On the other hand, it's hidden.

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You have to look for it.

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And the way it's hidden
is inside a building.

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HUELL HOWSER: What?

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JERRY CAMPBELL: It's the
Hancock Mansion-- or at least

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a part of it is inside a
building, the Hancock Building.

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HUELL HOWSER: That's what
we're here to look for.

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And you're going to
take us to the building

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and introduce us to our guides.

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And then you've got to go
back to running the library.

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JERRY CAMPBELL:
I've got to work.

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HUELL HOWSER: You've
got to go inside

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on a beautiful day like this.

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JERRY CAMPBELL: All right.

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Well, that's terrible.

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But it's a Southern
California problem.

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HUELL HOWSER: All
right, here we go.

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We're off to find a part
of the Hancock Mansion.

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OK, here we are.

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We've walked really
not that far,

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just about a half a block here.

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And we are here.

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JERRY CAMPBELL: Great,
now let me introduce you

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to the experts.

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These are two of the
library faculty members.

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Jean Crampon is the director
of the Hancock Memorial Museum.

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HUELL HOWSER: Hello.

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JEAN CRAMPON: Hello.

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JERRY CAMPBELL: And
Victoria Steele,

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who is the head of
Special Collections.

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And this, indeed, is
a special collection.

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HUELL HOWSER: That's
what we've heard.

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Now you've got to go to work.

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JERRY CAMPBELL: Yes, sir.

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HUELL HOWSER: Thank you, sir.

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JERRY CAMPBELL: Welcome again.

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HUELL HOWSER: We'll
send you your check

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in the mail, because you
did have a speaking part.

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JERRY CAMPBELL: Yes,
for what it's worth.

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Thanks.

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HUELL HOWSER: OK, we're here
in front of the Allan Hancock

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Foundation Auditorium.

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And it's got all these
wonderful figures on the front.

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Tell us what this is all about.

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VICTORIA STEELE: This
is an interesting mural

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of prehistoric mammals.

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And therein hangs the tale.

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Because it was actually
Allan Hancock who

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built this auditorium and
building, whose property

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is today La Brea Tar Pits.

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HUELL HOWSER: So Hancock
once lived on the land

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surrounding the tar pit.

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VICTORIA STEELE: Exactly right,
and what is today the museum.

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And that whole area
actually was Rancho La Brea.

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HUELL HOWSER: OK, so this is
why we have the saber tooth

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tiger and the--

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VICTORIA STEELE:
Rhabdodon, and so forth.

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HUELL HOWSER:
--all of this here.

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VICTORIA STEELE:
Aren't they great?

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It's too bad that the
trees obscure them today.

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HUELL HOWSER: It takes
you back to the Page

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Museum in La Brea
Tar Pits, where

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they found all of these items.

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VICTORIA STEELE: Exactly, right.

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HUELL HOWSER: OK,
but we're not here

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to talk about
saber tooth tigers.

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We're here to talk
about the Hancock home.

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VICTORIA STEELE: That's right.

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HUELL HOWSER:
Which we understand

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exists still in Los Angeles,
even though the actual home

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itself was torn down in--

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VICTORIA STEELE: About 1939.

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HUELL HOWSER: OK.

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So it's inside here?

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VICTORIA STEELE: That's right.

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It's a little slice of
the past, literally.

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So let's go see it.

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HUELL HOWSER: And it's obscure.

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VICTORIA STEELE: It
is obscure in a sense.

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But it's an interesting story.

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And it's really the story of
Allan Hancock and his mother.

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It was his mother's house.

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HUELL HOWSER: OK,
let's go inside.

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This was his mother's house.

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OK, here we are, the
Hancock Memorial Museum.

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And ladies, you're going--

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we're going to make this
grand entrance for Luis.

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Come in.

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Ta-da.

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And we're here.

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Oh my gosh.

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Now this-- is this the way
the Hancock Mansion was?

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VICTORIA STEELE: Partially.

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We have four complete
rooms out of the mansion

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that consisted of 23 rooms.

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So as I was saying before,
it's a slice of LA history.

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Well literally it's a slice.

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Because these rooms were moved
to the campus in the mid 30s.

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And this building, the
Hancock Foundation Building,

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was built around these rooms.

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HUELL HOWSER: Around the rooms.

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And when you talk about
rooms, look at this.

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Now what was this?

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VICTORIA STEELE: This
is the music room.

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Allan Hancock was a rather
accomplished musician.

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We'll talk about
that more presently.

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But this is a room where
performances were held.

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And you can see that the
family sat up on the balcony.

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HUELL HOWSER: Oh, look.

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VICTORIA STEELE:
Yeah, isn't that fun?

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HUELL HOWSER: And they were
the organ or piano recitals

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down here on the stage.

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JEAN CRAMPON: The Steinway
piano, that's right.

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And the organs are more
decorative than actually real.

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But this is a Wurlitzer
organ right over here.

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HUELL HOWSER: That was
brought from the home.

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JEAN CRAMPON: That's right.

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HUELL HOWSER: Now how
much of this furniture

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is what we would have
seen in the Hancock home

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if we had actually
gone to a party there?

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JEAN CRAMPON: Well for
this room everything

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came out of the house.

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So this one is unique.

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The other rooms
there's maybe a piece

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or two that came as gifts
to the mansion later.

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So they didn't come from
the original mansion.

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HUELL HOWSER: But this
is all the real stuff.

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And are these bona
fide antiques?

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JEAN CRAMPON: Yes they are.

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HUELL HOWSER: Or are
these just regular kinds

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of furniture that--

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you know what I'm trying to say.

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JEAN CRAMPON: Oh, yes.

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No, there are two
salon sets here.

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They're both genuine Louis XV.

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The one that's here
that you can see

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is probably the most special.

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It was a gift from Napoleon
to Maximilian and Carlotta

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of Mexico.

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HUELL HOWSER: Oh my gosh.

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JEAN CRAMPON: And it has the
original Aubusson tapestry

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on it.

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So this is what it looked like.

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The only difference
being that it

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has had actually
powdered gold put

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on the frame, which is the only
change from its original state.

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HUELL HOWSER: And
is this original?

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Look at this urn here.

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JEAN CRAMPON: Yes,
the [INAUDIBLE] vase

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is original to the house.

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HUELL HOWSER: Wow.

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This is amazing.

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Now I guess it's not too
early to ask why all of this

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happened.

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Why did they move this here?

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VICTORIA STEELE:
Why did this happen?

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It's a good question.

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And the reason was
that Allan Hancock

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was in the process of
building this building.

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As you may know, the mansion
stood at Vermont and Wilshire.

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It was built in 1909.

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Over the course of
years of course,

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there was encroaching
commercialization.

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So that in the mid '30s it was
no longer a fashionable area.

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And the house was
going to be demolished.

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A colleague here at
USC of Allan Hancock

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suggested to him that
he move these rooms

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and reinstall them here as
a memorial to his mother,

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his beloved mother.

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HUELL HOWSER: Who
built the house.

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VICTORIA STEELE: Who built
the house with Allan's money.

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And Allan-- we talked
about La Brea Tar Pits.

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The family owned
the Rancho La Brea.

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So it was all of this
property right around

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where the Tar Pits are now,
and quite a bit more than that.

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And they discovered
oil on this land.

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He sank 71 wells
on that property

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and became a very rich
man, went into banking,

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became one of the great
fortunes of Los Angeles.

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And so at about 1909 he was
able to construct her dream

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home for her.

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HUELL HOWSER: Yeah,
this huge mansion.

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Now look what we've got in here.

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VICTORIA STEELE: The
so-called library.

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HUELL HOWSER: The library.

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And it's kind of dark.

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VICTORIA STEELE: It's
a kind of dark room.

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HUELL HOWSER: A
lot of dark wood.

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But a very beautiful fireplace
with a lot of engraving

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overhead.

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And this is-- now are these
all original antiques here?

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JEAN CRAMPON: Yes, they are.

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HUELL HOWSER: Look at this.

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JEAN CRAMPON: That
one is quite special.

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It's a sleigh bench.

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And in the back of it is
actually an oil painting

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by [INAUDIBLE]--

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I can't pronounce it right, so
I apologize-- that is actually

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inserted in the back.

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HUELL HOWSER: And
look at the fireplace,

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the carving on the fireplace.

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VICTORIA STEELE:
Yeah, the fireplace

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is a replica of the fireplace
in Warwick Castle with one

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major difference.

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And that is that it has the
Haraszthy coat of arms, which

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is the contessa, Captain
Hancock's mother's

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family's coat of arms
above the fireplace.

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HUELL HOWSER: Now
is this the mother?

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VICTORIA STEELE: Yes that is
the contessa, Ida Haraszthy

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Hancock.

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HUELL HOWSER: Oh boy, she
looks like a contessa.

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VICTORIA STEELE:
Doesn't she though?

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HUELL HOWSER: She was very
strong-willed, I assume?

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VICTORIA STEELE: Yes,
it had served her well.

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Because even though she came
from a titled, noble family,

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Hungarian family, she
was born in Illinois

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and came with her family by
covered wagon to California.

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Her parents had to flee from
Hungary as political refugees,

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essentially.

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And they started over.

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Her father was a very
successful entrepreneur,

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became an elected
official, and actually

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is known as the father
of California viticulture

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because he started what
is today the Buena Vista

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vineyards in Sonoma.

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HUELL HOWSER: Yeah.

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VICTORIA STEELE: And so you know
she had had her fortunes, ups

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and downs, you might say.

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HUELL HOWSER: Now,
wait a minute.

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I'm looking over your shoulder.

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Here is the--

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VICTORIA STEELE:
That's the house.

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HUELL HOWSER: --here is
the house right here.

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VICTORIA STEELE:
Vermont and Wilshire.

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That's it.

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HUELL HOWSER: As it stood.

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VICTORIA STEELE: A very
grand home in it's time.

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HUELL HOWSER: Boy, I
keep seeing things.

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Look at this clock.

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VICTORIA STEELE: Oh, great
story with this clock.

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And that is that it I
guess stopped ticking

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during the Whittier earthquake.

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And then started up again
during the Northridge earthquake

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for some two or three days.

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At which point it ceased
ticking altogether.

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HUELL HOWSER: It's stopped now.

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VICTORIA STEELE: Yeah.

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HUELL HOWSER: I don't
know whether that's

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a good or a bad sign.

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VICTORIA STEELE: No
earthquakes is a good sign.

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HUELL HOWSER: Now what
about things like this?

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Look at this thing.

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It's just sitting out here.

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This is magnificent.

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VICTORIA STEELE: Yes,
it's one of a pair.

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You can see the other
one is over here.

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HUELL HOWSER: Are
these valuable?

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or are these--

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JEAN CRAMPON: Well,
they are antiques.

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They are royal Vienna.

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And they're I think special
because of their size.

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They are quite huge.

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It's the largest
porcelain pieces

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that we have in the museum.

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HUELL HOWSER: Do you have
those things bolted down?

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JEAN CRAMPON: They
are bolted down.

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But they're--

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HUELL HOWSER: I'm just
thinking about earthquake.

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JEAN CRAMPON: But they're
only bolted part way.

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So this is a three-piece
piece of porcelain.

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And the top piece
actually is not anchored.

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HUELL HOWSER: Uh-oh.

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Well that's sure going
to be your problem.

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Now this was the--

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VICTORIA STEELE: Reception hall.

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HUELL HOWSER: Reception hall.

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VICTORIA STEELE: And probably
the most striking thing

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to my eye about this room is
these lovely lunettes that

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are of Pompeii and Herculaneum.

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HUELL HOWSER: These are
the little paintings--

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VICTORIA STEELE: That's right.

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HUELL HOWSER: --right up here.

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VICTORIA STEELE: So it's
kind of an Italianate room.

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This is the French room.

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And we have two quasi-English
rooms, the library

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and this dining room.

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HUELL HOWSER: The dining room.

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VICTORIA STEELE: Mhm.

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HUELL HOWSER: Oh boy.

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VICTORIA STEELE: Actually
one of the things

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that you'll notice in
the house in general

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is that it is quite eclectic.

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And it's, you know, a
little bit of this--

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you know, there's some
Thai carved panels in here,

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some Belgian pieces.

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It's quite a mix.

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HUELL HOWSER: Look at this.

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VICTORIA STEELE: Right.

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And these are actually very fun
[INAUDIBLE],, these andirons.

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But you know, it was really
what wealthy families

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at the turn of the century
in Los Angeles would do,

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and that is collect things,
antiques from Europe.

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HUELL HOWSER: These are the
ones from Thailand here.

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VICTORIA STEELE: That's right.

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These [INAUDIBLE].

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VICTORIA STEELE: Right.

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HUELL HOWSER: And this
would be the table where

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they would entertain I guess
the powerful people of Los

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Angeles in their day?

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VICTORIA STEELE: That's right.

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And Allen Hancock certainly
was a civic leader.

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You know, he actually
owned the second automobile

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in Los Angeles, was
founder of the Auto Club.

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In general, loved
transportation you might say.

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He not only was
interested in automobiles,

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but he was somebody who
funded pioneer research

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in ocean exploration.

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He was also a licensed
locomotive engineer,

00:13:34.460 --> 00:13:36.350 align:middle line:84%
and that played
an important role

00:13:36.350 --> 00:13:39.080 align:middle line:84%
in the development of
aviation in Los Angeles.

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HUELL HOWSER: So he was
one of those rock bed

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founders, the
movers, the Shakers,

00:13:48.140 --> 00:13:49.770 align:middle line:90%
that made LA what it is today.

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VICTORIA STEELE: Absolutely.

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Important in the Chamber
of Commerce and so forth.

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But it's interesting to
think that his lifespan was

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from 1875 to 1865.

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So he lived 90 years.

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When he was working as a
boy on the Rancho La Brea,

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and digging tar out of the
ground and selling it--

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you know, people used it
for roofing and so forth.

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He was carrying this
tarp by horse and buggy.

00:14:14.180 --> 00:14:16.170 align:middle line:84%
Later in his life, towards
the end of his life,

00:14:16.170 --> 00:14:18.500 align:middle line:84%
he had a helicopter,
his own helicopter.

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So his life spans
horses to helicopters.

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It's an amazing life, really.

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HUELL HOWSER: And this
gives just a glance--

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oh, look over here.

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Look at these.

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What are these?

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JEAN CRAMPON: OK, they are
Chinese brass figurines.

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So that's our Chinese
piece in the room.

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It's, as you were saying,
it's a very eclectic room.

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It's got a little
bit of everything.

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HUELL HOWSER: Because
this looks European here.

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JEAN CRAMPON: It is.

00:14:46.100 --> 00:14:51.650 align:middle line:84%
It's actually a 19th century
reproduction of a 17th century

00:14:51.650 --> 00:14:53.450 align:middle line:90%
Flemish piece.

00:14:53.450 --> 00:14:56.360 align:middle line:84%
The other cabinets in the
room are genuine 17th century

00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:56.930 align:middle line:90%
Flemish.

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HUELL HOWSER: I'm
sorry I picked out

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the reproduction to talk about.

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These are--

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VICTORIA STEELE:
See the bellows.

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This is a fun--

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HUELL HOWSER: What is this?

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VICTORIA STEELE: Well
you'll have to help me

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it's a fireplace bellow.

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JEAN CRAMPON: [INAUDIBLE]

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VICTORIA STEELE: Yes.

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HUELL HOWSER: Wow.

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VICTORIA STEELE:
Isn't that wonderful?

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HUELL HOWSER: These
are the bellows

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that they used for the fire.

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VICTORIA STEELE: That's right.

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And we should probably
be wearing gloves

00:15:13.926 --> 00:15:16.010 align:middle line:90%
as we handle it, but oh well.

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HUELL HOWSER: Yeah
because now you're--

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I'm sorry.

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VICTORIA STEELE:
She's the curator.

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HUELL HOWSER:
Let's get out here.

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Oh, look at this.

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Now is this the way
they would have actually

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had the entrance
to the dining room,

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would have been
something like this?

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JEAN CRAMPON: Yes.

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And the only difference being
from what it is now to then,

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would there would not have
been a carpet on the floor.

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And we've got an
oriental carpet here

00:15:38.390 --> 00:15:41.480 align:middle line:84%
because the carpet doesn't
fit under the doors,

00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:44.660 align:middle line:84%
so the doors can't close
unless I take the carpet up.

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HUELL HOWSER: Now we are
leaving the dining room.

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We are walking through
the grand entrance hall.

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Because here's-- well, we're
going to go up the grand marble

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staircase and see what?

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JEAN CRAMPON: Well, you'll
see an absolutely glorious

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stained glass window.

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HUELL HOWSER: OK.

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JEAN CRAMPON: That's 1865.

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It was actually done
before the house was built.

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But she ordered it--

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HUELL HOWSER: The
contessa ordered it.

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VICTORIA STEELE: The contessa,
Ida Haraszthy Hancock.

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HUELL HOWSER: You know it
seems a shame because I'm

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looking at right up here
now, and the house just kind

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of stops right here, Louie.

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Don't you wish that there were
other rooms still preserved?

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JEAN CRAMPON: Oh, I'd love
to have seen the whole house.

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We're trying to get actually
the original floor plans to see

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where all the other rooms were.

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Because I have lists
of rooms such as--

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there's a clock that came
out of the breakfast room.

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Well, where was that?

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HUELL HOWSER: Yeah.

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JEAN CRAMPON: And I don't know.

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HUELL HOWSER: Because they
just arbitrarily chose

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to save these rooms and do
away with all the others?

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JEAN CRAMPON: Well these
were probably honestly

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the prettiest, or the public
rooms, the public rooms.

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Certainly they would want
to save the music salon

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because that would have a soft
spot in Captain's heart as well

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as in his mother's.

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HUELL HOWSER: Well was
this the living room?

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I mean, when you
say the music room--

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VICTORIA STEELE: I think
it's more of a conservatory.

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HUELL HOWSER: Where
was the living room?

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Did they have a
living room as such?

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VICTORIA STEELE: They
probably did have a kind of--

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JEAN CRAMPON: They didn't have
anything they called that.

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They did have a sitting room,
and they had a smoking room.

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So there were lots of
other rooms on this level.

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But this would have
been the biggest

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room on the first floor.

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HUELL HOWSER: Yeah.

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Well it's spectacular.

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And I know that each of you
have your areas of expertise.

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You're a big Allan Hancock fan--

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VICTORIA STEELE: Yeah, he
has an interesting story.

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HUELL HOWSER: --and feel
that his story is not

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as well-known here in Los
Angeles as it should be.

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VICTORIA STEELE: That's right.

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And, you know, it's
certainly a name

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we know because of Hancock
Park, where you in fact live.

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But we are quite
interested at USC

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in the stories of these
founding families.

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In fact, we're embarking
on an initiative

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to collect some of these
original documents,

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the archives of these families.

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So we are interested in telling
the story of these individuals

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who really shaped Los Angeles.

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HUELL HOWSER: Well,
this was his home.

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VICTORIA STEELE: That's right.

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HUELL HOWSER: Captain
Allan Hancock.

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VICTORIA STEELE:
Captain Allan Hancock

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who was licensed,
interestingly, to command

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any vessel of any tonnage on
any ocean, as the story goes.

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So this was a man of many
gifts, and not the least

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of which was the musical one.

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HUELL HOWSER: Well, and
also he gave this gift

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to the people of California,
of Southern California.

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As the curator-- you're
the curator here--

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tell us how available it is
for us to come in, and enjoy,

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and see.

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JEAN CRAMPON: OK,
we do have tours.

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They are not on a
regular basis right now.

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They're on an appointment basis.

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But for example, I've
got two this afternoon.

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So they do come.

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Generally we have groups.

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But we also have individuals.

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And when we do that, I will
sort of make a wait list

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and try to put one together.

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So it's a mixture.

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HUELL HOWSER: But basically
this is open for tours.

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How do you use it
at the university?

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You have receptions, and does
the president come down here

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and have a party?

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JEAN CRAMPON: No.

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HUELL HOWSER: It's a
great place to entertain.

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JEAN CRAMPON: Unfortunately
a lot of the furniture

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is extremely fragile.

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So we can't open it up and
have receptions and parties.

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But we do have dinners in here.

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And we just had the
board of trustees

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in for lunch last month,
for their Christmas party,

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was here in the room.

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HUELL HOWSER: You know, I'm
just standing here scared

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to death because Louie
is standing right there

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right by that big urn.

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JEAN CRAMPON: No problem.

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He's fine.

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HUELL HOWSER: I'm just looking
out the corner of my mind.

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If he swings around--

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Louie, show them how close
you are to this thing.

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Yeah.

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And I can see you kind of
looking over there too.

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But we're pretty good about
not knocking things over.

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I just wanted to make sure.

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Thank you very much.

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This has been wonderful.

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It's a hidden piece of
Los Angeles history.

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Four of the original rooms
from the Hancock Mansion, which

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originally sat on--

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JEAN CRAMPON: Vermont and
Wilshire, Northeast corner.

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HUELL HOWSER: Now
it's right smack dab

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in the middle of the USC campus.

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It's available for you to come
down, and look at, and enjoy.

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And it's been a pleasure
to be here today.

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I've heard about this place.

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I've never seen it before.

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JEAN CRAMPON: Thank
you very much.

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HUELL HOWSER: Thank
you very much.

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And we made it without
breaking anything.

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JEAN CRAMPON: I'm proud of you.

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HUELL HOWSER: OK, continuing our
search for kind of hidden gems

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here in our city, we've
now left the USC campus.

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And we have come over to the
corner of Adams Boulevard

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and Cimarron.

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This is the West Adams
district of our city.

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And we've come here to
this beautiful place--

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it's surrounded by this wall
that's covered in green foliage

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here.

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But we understand that if
we go inside this wall,

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we're in for a treat.

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Good morning.

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PETER REILL: Good
morning, Huell.

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I'm Peter Reill, director of the
William Andrews Clark Memorial

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Library.

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Welcome.

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HUELL HOWSER: And this is
William Andrews Clark Library--

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PETER REILL: Memorial Library.

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HUELL HOWSER: Memorial Library.

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PETER REILL: That
it is, that it is.

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HUELL HOWSER: You know,
I feel really a sense

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of excitement about being here.

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Because over the years we have
received countless letters,

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phone calls, there have
been myths about this place.

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And that the underlying
theme behind all this

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has been that this
library is just kind

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of a hidden gem in our city.

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PETER REILL: It's one
of the unknown things.

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It's a great library,
wonderful architecture,

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beautiful location.

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Hardly anyone knows about it.

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And I'm glad you finally
found out about it.

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HUELL HOWSER: Well, why does
no on know about this thing?

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PETER REILL: I don't know.

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Maybe because it
belongs to UCLA,

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and everyone thinks
it's at UCLA.

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And they go to UCLA,
and they can't find it.

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HUELL HOWSER: Uh-huh.

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PETER REILL: We're here in
the West Adams area, which

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is pretty far away from UCLA.

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HUELL HOWSER: So this is part
of the UCLA library system?

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PETER REILL: This was the
first rare book library

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that UCLA ever received.

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Mr. Clark gave it to us in 1926,
kept it until he died in 1934.

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And it was the first
major gift that UCLA ever

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got, until the 60s.

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HUELL HOWSER: Wait a minute,
it was the first rare--

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PETER REILL: Rare book room.

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We did not have a rare book
section until this came in.

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And then we built up a rare
book section at UCLA later.

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HUELL HOWSER: But this
library was built--

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was it built as a UCLA library?

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PETER REILL: No, Mr. Clark
built it for himself.

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After he built it,
he decided that he

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had such a wonderful library
with a great collection that he

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wanted to keep it
intact for the public.

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And he made a decision
to give it to UCLA,

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thank god, instead
of other places sort

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of a little bit down the road.

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HUELL HOWSER: USC.

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PETER REILL: Exactly.

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HUELL HOWSER: Where
we have just been.

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PETER REILL: Yes,
I understand that.

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HUELL HOWSER: Now
this is amazing.

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PETER REILL: This
is the entrance way.

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When he decided to
build this library,

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he got a great architect, Robert
Farquhar, a great painter,

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Mr. Cox who finished
his career by painting

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the Capitol in Washington, DC.

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He imported everything
that's handmade.

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All of this marble comes
from Greece and Italy.

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HUELL HOWSER: Oh, wow.

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PETER REILL: Beautifully
done, all handmade.

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And the paintings on top
illustrate the Clark fortune.

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Over here Mr. Clark tells you
where his money comes from.

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His father was a mining man.

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Over here he tells us
he's a world traveler.

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Over here he tells us that
he's a collector of art.

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Over here he tells us that
he's a collector of books.

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Over here he tells us
he loves astronomy.

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And over there where
you see the violin,

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it is his suggestion
that he loves music.

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And that's where Mr. Clark and
the person that you had just--

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the place you had just visited--

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didn't get along.

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HUELL HOWSER: OK, now let's
talk for just a minute.

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Because we've just come
from Allan Hancock's

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museum on the USC campus.

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PETER REILL: Right.

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HUELL HOWSER: Mr.
Hancock and Mr. Clark

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lived here in Los
Angeles at the same time.

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PETER REILL: Exactly.

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And they were-- they
knew each other.

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They didn't like each other.

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Mr. Hancock loved music.

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Mr. Clark loved music.

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Mr. Hancock was the treasurer
of an old organization called

00:24:28.650 --> 00:24:30.570 align:middle line:90%
the Los Angeles Symphony.

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Mr. Clark didn't like it.

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And so what he did was
found the LA Philharmonic.

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And what you had is a real
battle between these two

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men of which two orchestras--

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which of the two is
going to be predominant.

00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:46.100 align:middle line:84%
Hancock tried to force
Clark to merge the two.

00:24:46.100 --> 00:24:48.120 align:middle line:90%
Clark said no thank you.

00:24:48.120 --> 00:24:51.030 align:middle line:84%
And within a year, the
LA Symphony folded,

00:24:51.030 --> 00:24:52.920 align:middle line:84%
and the LA Philharmonic
kept going.

00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:55.560 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: And Mr. Clark
is responsible for the LA

00:24:55.560 --> 00:24:57.406 align:middle line:90%
Philharmonic surviving.

00:24:57.406 --> 00:24:59.280 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: He is
probably the greatest gift

00:24:59.280 --> 00:25:01.140 align:middle line:84%
of any musical organization
in this country.

00:25:01.140 --> 00:25:05.880 align:middle line:84%
He founded it in 1919, and he
paid its deficit for 15 years.

00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:11.695 align:middle line:84%
And that amounted up to $3
million in 1919 to 1934 money.

00:25:11.695 --> 00:25:12.570 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Really?

00:25:12.570 --> 00:25:15.450 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: Which, if you
multiply that by at least 10,

00:25:15.450 --> 00:25:18.571 align:middle line:84%
you have an idea of what he
did for the LA Philharmonic.

00:25:18.571 --> 00:25:20.820 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Well, he did
a lot for the Philharmonic.

00:25:20.820 --> 00:25:22.740 align:middle line:84%
He's obviously done
a lot for UCLA.

00:25:22.740 --> 00:25:23.780 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Yes.

00:25:23.780 --> 00:25:26.370 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: This was
his private library

00:25:26.370 --> 00:25:27.970 align:middle line:90%
when he lived here.

00:25:27.970 --> 00:25:29.970 align:middle line:84%
These are the grounds
where his home used to be.

00:25:29.970 --> 00:25:30.678 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Yes.

00:25:30.678 --> 00:25:31.680 align:middle line:90%
His home was over there.

00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:32.190 align:middle line:90%
It's gone.

00:25:32.190 --> 00:25:34.050 align:middle line:90%
We ripped it down in the '60s.

00:25:34.050 --> 00:25:37.150 align:middle line:84%
He built this library because
he had a fire in his house.

00:25:37.150 --> 00:25:39.660 align:middle line:84%
And he wanted to make sure
the library would stay.

00:25:39.660 --> 00:25:42.540 align:middle line:84%
So he built a library,
but he also loved music.

00:25:42.540 --> 00:25:43.860 align:middle line:90%
So this is the music room.

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HUELL HOWSER: Wow.

00:25:44.610 --> 00:25:47.193 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: And he would play
with-- he had a string quartet.

00:25:47.193 --> 00:25:48.510 align:middle line:90%
He would play second violin.

00:25:48.510 --> 00:25:50.460 align:middle line:84%
And what we do is
put on concerts here.

00:25:50.460 --> 00:25:53.040 align:middle line:84%
We've put on four concerts,
chamber music concerts a year.

00:25:53.040 --> 00:25:53.480 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Really?

00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:53.850 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: In this room.

00:25:53.850 --> 00:25:54.690 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: In this room?

00:25:54.690 --> 00:25:55.773 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: In this room.

00:25:55.773 --> 00:25:59.010 align:middle line:84%
And we do it in his honor and
also to honor the West Adams

00:25:59.010 --> 00:25:59.940 align:middle line:90%
area, where we are.

00:25:59.940 --> 00:26:01.480 align:middle line:90%
And we charge very little money.

00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.430 align:middle line:84%
So if any of you visitors want
to come to a great chamber

00:26:04.430 --> 00:26:07.290 align:middle line:84%
music concert, they should
get in touch with us.

00:26:07.290 --> 00:26:10.320 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: This is
absolutely magnificent.

00:26:10.320 --> 00:26:12.690 align:middle line:84%
This is like something
you'd see in Europe.

00:26:12.690 --> 00:26:15.679 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: This is copied from
the Doge's Palace in Venice.

00:26:15.679 --> 00:26:16.470 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Yeah.

00:26:16.470 --> 00:26:18.000 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: He did,
he sent his architect,

00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:19.650 align:middle line:84%
around he looked at
all the libraries.

00:26:19.650 --> 00:26:21.150 align:middle line:84%
And he went on trips
through Europe.

00:26:21.150 --> 00:26:23.490 align:middle line:84%
He had carte blanche, he
could do anything he wanted.

00:26:23.490 --> 00:26:24.865 align:middle line:84%
And when he came
back, he sort of

00:26:24.865 --> 00:26:27.150 align:middle line:84%
put this library
together as a melange

00:26:27.150 --> 00:26:29.490 align:middle line:84%
of all of the things
he liked the best.

00:26:29.490 --> 00:26:32.730 align:middle line:84%
So this is supposedly a
reduction of the Doge's Palace.

00:26:32.730 --> 00:26:34.230 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: And
you look out here,

00:26:34.230 --> 00:26:36.480 align:middle line:90%
and you have a formal garden.

00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.070 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: A formal garden.

00:26:38.070 --> 00:26:39.690 align:middle line:84%
That was there
before this library

00:26:39.690 --> 00:26:41.412 align:middle line:90%
was built, the formal gardens.

00:26:41.412 --> 00:26:42.870 align:middle line:84%
And on the left
hand side, which we

00:26:42.870 --> 00:26:45.490 align:middle line:84%
don't see right now,
when UCLA got it,

00:26:45.490 --> 00:26:46.890 align:middle line:90%
they put in English gardens.

00:26:46.890 --> 00:26:49.829 align:middle line:84%
So we have a mixture of formal
and English beautifully done.

00:26:49.829 --> 00:26:51.870 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: So you have
beautiful grounds here.

00:26:51.870 --> 00:26:52.500 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Wonderful.

00:26:52.500 --> 00:26:54.220 align:middle line:84%
And the grounds are
open to the public.

00:26:54.220 --> 00:26:56.340 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: So people can
just come and walk through?

00:26:56.340 --> 00:26:57.215 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Exactly.

00:26:57.215 --> 00:26:59.360 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: But your
main reason for existence--

00:26:59.360 --> 00:27:00.120 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Is this.

00:27:00.120 --> 00:27:01.950 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Is the
books-- are the books.

00:27:01.950 --> 00:27:02.190 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Are the books.

00:27:02.190 --> 00:27:03.480 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: And here
is the fellow over here

00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:04.890 align:middle line:84%
who's going to tell
us about the books.

00:27:04.890 --> 00:27:06.015 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Yeah, he will.

00:27:06.015 --> 00:27:08.901 align:middle line:84%
Steve Tabor, our head cataloger,
will tell you a little bit

00:27:08.901 --> 00:27:09.900 align:middle line:90%
about some of the books.

00:27:09.900 --> 00:27:10.170 align:middle line:90%
Steve?

00:27:10.170 --> 00:27:10.950 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Good morning.

00:27:10.950 --> 00:27:12.033 align:middle line:90%
STEVE TABOR: Good morning.

00:27:12.033 --> 00:27:15.030 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Tell us what
this library is known for.

00:27:15.030 --> 00:27:17.340 align:middle line:84%
STEVE TABOR: We have three
major areas of collecting.

00:27:17.340 --> 00:27:18.900 align:middle line:84%
The one that we
are most famous for

00:27:18.900 --> 00:27:20.354 align:middle line:90%
is probably the Oscar Wilde.

00:27:20.354 --> 00:27:22.770 align:middle line:84%
And we have the best collection
of Oscar Wilde manuscripts

00:27:22.770 --> 00:27:24.240 align:middle line:90%
and first editions in the world.

00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:24.990 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: In the world?

00:27:24.990 --> 00:27:26.073 align:middle line:90%
STEVE TABOR: In the world.

00:27:26.073 --> 00:27:28.140 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Now is
that because Mr. Clark

00:27:28.140 --> 00:27:30.057 align:middle line:84%
was interested in
Oscar Wilde's work?

00:27:30.057 --> 00:27:32.140 align:middle line:84%
STEVE TABOR: He was very
much interested in Wilde.

00:27:32.140 --> 00:27:34.580 align:middle line:84%
And he had contacts with
Wilde's bibliographer

00:27:34.580 --> 00:27:36.390 align:middle line:90%
and Wilde's executor.

00:27:36.390 --> 00:27:39.880 align:middle line:84%
So he had a direct line to Wilde
memorabilia, and manuscripts,

00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:40.380 align:middle line:90%
and so on.

00:27:40.380 --> 00:27:42.420 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: So
this collection--

00:27:42.420 --> 00:27:49.180 align:middle line:84%
well, here's a picture of Oscar
Wilde right here, autographed.

00:27:49.180 --> 00:27:51.580 align:middle line:90%
And you have what other--

00:27:51.580 --> 00:27:53.860 align:middle line:84%
STEVE TABOR: We've
pulled out a typescripte

00:27:53.860 --> 00:27:55.480 align:middle line:90%
of The Ballad of Reading Jail.

00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:57.970 align:middle line:84%
This is the poem that
Wilde wrote after he--

00:27:57.970 --> 00:27:58.300 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Move
this over here

00:27:58.300 --> 00:27:59.710 align:middle line:90%
so Louie can take a look at it.

00:27:59.710 --> 00:28:00.610 align:middle line:90%
STEVE TABOR: Right.

00:28:00.610 --> 00:28:03.640 align:middle line:84%
--after he had gotten
out of Reading Jail.

00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.690 align:middle line:84%
And it was essentially a protest
against the conditions that

00:28:07.690 --> 00:28:09.940 align:middle line:90%
prevailed there at the time.

00:28:09.940 --> 00:28:15.100 align:middle line:84%
This has Wilde's manuscript
corrections in it.

00:28:15.100 --> 00:28:17.710 align:middle line:84%
And by comparison, this
is the first edition

00:28:17.710 --> 00:28:23.060 align:middle line:90%
as it first appeared in 1897.

00:28:23.060 --> 00:28:25.040 align:middle line:90%
His name was not in the work.

00:28:25.040 --> 00:28:28.250 align:middle line:84%
He identified himself
by a cell number, C33.

00:28:28.250 --> 00:28:32.570 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: OK, so
Oscar Wilde fans, this

00:28:32.570 --> 00:28:34.370 align:middle line:84%
is where they come
to do their research.

00:28:34.370 --> 00:28:35.870 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: When
we purchased that,

00:28:35.870 --> 00:28:37.690 align:middle line:84%
we had John Lithgow
read it for us.

00:28:37.690 --> 00:28:39.230 align:middle line:90%
It was a magnificent thing.

00:28:39.230 --> 00:28:41.360 align:middle line:84%
Everything you want to
know about Wilde is here.

00:28:41.360 --> 00:28:42.980 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: This is the place.

00:28:42.980 --> 00:28:45.570 align:middle line:84%
Now that's one of your
areas of expertise.

00:28:45.570 --> 00:28:46.940 align:middle line:90%
The other is?

00:28:46.940 --> 00:28:49.430 align:middle line:84%
STEVE TABOR: Another is
English literature and history,

00:28:49.430 --> 00:28:53.120 align:middle line:90%
1641 to the late 18th century.

00:28:53.120 --> 00:28:55.749 align:middle line:84%
As a representative of
this, I've pulled out--

00:28:55.749 --> 00:28:58.040 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Boy, you've
got the whole-- some really--

00:28:58.040 --> 00:29:00.270 align:middle line:84%
STEVE TABOR: Oh, we've
got a lot of things here.

00:29:00.270 --> 00:29:02.530 align:middle line:84%
First edition of
Gulliver's Travels.

00:29:02.530 --> 00:29:04.760 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Oh,
look at this, Louie.

00:29:04.760 --> 00:29:07.190 align:middle line:84%
A first edition of
Gulliver's Travels.

00:29:07.190 --> 00:29:08.690 align:middle line:90%
And that was published in?

00:29:08.690 --> 00:29:09.670 align:middle line:90%
STEVE TABOR: 1726.

00:29:09.670 --> 00:29:10.832 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Wow.

00:29:10.832 --> 00:29:12.290 align:middle line:84%
STEVE TABOR: And
he's even given us

00:29:12.290 --> 00:29:16.700 align:middle line:84%
a map of where you
can find Lilliput.

00:29:16.700 --> 00:29:19.509 align:middle line:84%
He placed it down
southwest of Sumatra.

00:29:19.509 --> 00:29:21.800 align:middle line:84%
Which, if you actually go
there, you'll find Australia.

00:29:21.800 --> 00:29:24.320 align:middle line:84%
But they didn't know
about that at the time.

00:29:24.320 --> 00:29:27.440 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: All right, so this
is another area of expertise--

00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:33.680 align:middle line:84%
17th and 18th century
English history, literature--

00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:34.770 align:middle line:90%
STEVE TABOR: Culture--

00:29:34.770 --> 00:29:35.410 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Culture.

00:29:35.410 --> 00:29:36.285 align:middle line:90%
STEVE TABOR: Society.

00:29:36.285 --> 00:29:37.280 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Society.

00:29:37.280 --> 00:29:38.990 align:middle line:90%
And over here?

00:29:38.990 --> 00:29:43.940 align:middle line:84%
STEVE TABOR: Over here is one
of our smaller collections,

00:29:43.940 --> 00:29:46.220 align:middle line:90%
but something that--

00:29:46.220 --> 00:29:48.895 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Oh,
look at this, Louie.

00:29:48.895 --> 00:29:51.395 align:middle line:84%
STEVE TABOR: Peter, would you
like to say a word about this?

00:29:51.395 --> 00:29:54.470 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: This is a book done
by [INAUDIBLE] from Germany.

00:29:54.470 --> 00:29:55.240 align:middle line:90%
He was a--

00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.740 align:middle line:84%
[INAUDIBLE] yes, he
was a rich nobleman

00:29:57.740 --> 00:30:00.440 align:middle line:84%
who wanted to explore
American Indians.

00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.830 align:middle line:84%
He came here with a man by
the name of [INAUDIBLE] who

00:30:03.830 --> 00:30:05.550 align:middle line:90%
did the paintings.

00:30:05.550 --> 00:30:08.300 align:middle line:84%
And this is one of the classic
works about the American

00:30:08.300 --> 00:30:09.420 align:middle line:90%
Indian.

00:30:09.420 --> 00:30:12.410 align:middle line:84%
Very few-- this is Mr.
Audubon's own private copy.

00:30:12.410 --> 00:30:15.830 align:middle line:84%
And you can see, if
you turn the thing,

00:30:15.830 --> 00:30:17.450 align:middle line:84%
Audubon has his name
right over here.

00:30:17.450 --> 00:30:18.380 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Mhm.

00:30:18.380 --> 00:30:20.629 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: Trouble with
this, it's a very rare book.

00:30:20.629 --> 00:30:22.260 align:middle line:84%
And if you ever
go to New Mexico,

00:30:22.260 --> 00:30:23.968 align:middle line:84%
you're going to find
that a lot of people

00:30:23.968 --> 00:30:26.050 align:middle line:84%
cut single leaves out
of them and sell them.

00:30:26.050 --> 00:30:29.100 align:middle line:84%
And a single leaf goes for
about $25,000 to $40,000,

00:30:29.100 --> 00:30:31.820 align:middle line:84%
to give you an idea of how
important this book is.

00:30:31.820 --> 00:30:34.810 align:middle line:84%
And it's a beautiful
representation of the Americans

00:30:34.810 --> 00:30:36.590 align:middle line:90%
of the northern plains.

00:30:36.590 --> 00:30:42.320 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: So you really
specialize in these gems?

00:30:42.320 --> 00:30:45.619 align:middle line:84%
Would this be considered
a rare book library?

00:30:45.619 --> 00:30:47.660 align:middle line:84%
STEVE TABOR: It's definitely
a rare book library.

00:30:47.660 --> 00:30:48.500 align:middle line:90%
We have gems.

00:30:48.500 --> 00:30:51.170 align:middle line:84%
But we also have
rather common things

00:30:51.170 --> 00:30:52.820 align:middle line:84%
that people wouldn't
think to collect,

00:30:52.820 --> 00:30:55.278 align:middle line:84%
and those are the things that
people are interested in now,

00:30:55.278 --> 00:30:58.310 align:middle line:84%
more than the obvious
first editions.

00:30:58.310 --> 00:31:02.090 align:middle line:84%
The nuts and bolts of daily
life are being more and more

00:31:02.090 --> 00:31:02.780 align:middle line:90%
studied now.

00:31:02.780 --> 00:31:04.100 align:middle line:90%
And we've got that stuff too.

00:31:04.100 --> 00:31:06.692 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: In 17th
and 18th century England.

00:31:06.692 --> 00:31:07.400 align:middle line:90%
STEVE TABOR: Yes.

00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.566 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: Not only in
England, we also do Europe.

00:31:09.566 --> 00:31:10.840 align:middle line:90%
All right.

00:31:10.840 --> 00:31:11.840 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: All right.

00:31:11.840 --> 00:31:13.150 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: So more
England than Europe.

00:31:13.150 --> 00:31:13.820 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Nice to meet.

00:31:13.820 --> 00:31:15.153 align:middle line:90%
You Why don't you stick with us?

00:31:15.153 --> 00:31:16.910 align:middle line:90%
Come on, you can stick with us.

00:31:16.910 --> 00:31:18.240 align:middle line:90%
And the tour continues.

00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.750 align:middle line:84%
Because as beautiful--
look at this room.

00:31:20.750 --> 00:31:25.490 align:middle line:84%
As beautiful as this
room is, this is just

00:31:25.490 --> 00:31:27.200 align:middle line:90%
part of the first floor.

00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:28.700 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: All
the decorations are

00:31:28.700 --> 00:31:31.250 align:middle line:84%
taken from Dryden's
play "All for Love".

00:31:31.250 --> 00:31:32.630 align:middle line:90%
Which he collects Dryden.

00:31:32.630 --> 00:31:35.801 align:middle line:84%
He has the greatest collection
of Dryden in this country.

00:31:35.801 --> 00:31:38.160 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Wow.

00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:38.840 align:middle line:90%
There's more.

00:31:38.840 --> 00:31:41.660 align:middle line:90%


00:31:41.660 --> 00:31:43.251 align:middle line:84%
Oh, it just keeps
getting better.

00:31:43.251 --> 00:31:44.250 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Doesn't it?

00:31:44.250 --> 00:31:46.500 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Now, is this--

00:31:46.500 --> 00:31:48.052 align:middle line:90%
is this where he would come?

00:31:48.052 --> 00:31:49.760 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: This is
where he would come.

00:31:49.760 --> 00:31:51.990 align:middle line:90%
This was his library.

00:31:51.990 --> 00:31:54.125 align:middle line:84%
Notice it's all
made out of bronze.

00:31:54.125 --> 00:31:55.250 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Look at this.

00:31:55.250 --> 00:31:57.420 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: Now
this is done in 1926.

00:31:57.420 --> 00:31:59.060 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: This
is all bronze.

00:31:59.060 --> 00:32:00.518 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: It's
state of the art.

00:32:00.518 --> 00:32:02.640 align:middle line:84%
And the bronze is partly
there because his dad

00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:05.190 align:middle line:84%
made all his money as a
copper and bronze miner.

00:32:05.190 --> 00:32:09.310 align:middle line:84%
So this is sort of a play
on the memory of his father.

00:32:09.310 --> 00:32:11.910 align:middle line:84%
But I mean, it was done
with real state of the art.

00:32:11.910 --> 00:32:13.860 align:middle line:90%
Everything is secure.

00:32:13.860 --> 00:32:16.620 align:middle line:90%
Everything gets fresh air in it.

00:32:16.620 --> 00:32:18.120 align:middle line:84%
We've gone through
many earthquakes,

00:32:18.120 --> 00:32:19.750 align:middle line:90%
and nothing's happened so far.

00:32:19.750 --> 00:32:20.810 align:middle line:90%
Keep our fingers crossed.

00:32:20.810 --> 00:32:24.780 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: So these were
all at-- when he lived here

00:32:24.780 --> 00:32:27.115 align:middle line:84%
on these grounds,
had his home here--

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PETER REILL: Exactly.

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HUELL HOWSER: This was his
own personal separate library.

00:32:31.470 --> 00:32:33.870 align:middle line:84%
And his collection of
rare books would have

00:32:33.870 --> 00:32:35.732 align:middle line:90%
filled all of these bookcase.

00:32:35.732 --> 00:32:36.690 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Two rooms.

00:32:36.690 --> 00:32:38.350 align:middle line:84%
We have another
room exactly alike.

00:32:38.350 --> 00:32:39.630 align:middle line:90%
Yes, they would have.

00:32:39.630 --> 00:32:41.970 align:middle line:84%
When he died, he had
about 16,000 volumes

00:32:41.970 --> 00:32:43.500 align:middle line:90%
that he left to UCLA.

00:32:43.500 --> 00:32:45.057 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Wow, what a gift.

00:32:45.057 --> 00:32:46.890 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: Wonderful
gift, wonderful gift.

00:32:46.890 --> 00:32:48.306 align:middle line:84%
Now of course,
we've increased it.

00:32:48.306 --> 00:32:49.710 align:middle line:90%
We have 90,000 volumes.

00:32:49.710 --> 00:32:51.700 align:middle line:90%
And they all don't fit up here.

00:32:51.700 --> 00:32:53.730 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: OK,
so is this where

00:32:53.730 --> 00:32:56.392 align:middle line:84%
the research people
come in to do

00:32:56.392 --> 00:32:57.600 align:middle line:90%
their research, in this room?

00:32:57.600 --> 00:32:58.570 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: No, not at all.

00:32:58.570 --> 00:32:59.430 align:middle line:90%
I'll show you where they do.

00:32:59.430 --> 00:33:00.510 align:middle line:90%
We do it downstairs.

00:33:00.510 --> 00:33:02.590 align:middle line:84%
What we use these rooms
for, once in a while

00:33:02.590 --> 00:33:06.300 align:middle line:84%
we have classes for professors
for UCLA or for USC.

00:33:06.300 --> 00:33:09.180 align:middle line:84%
We do let USC use
this building too.

00:33:09.180 --> 00:33:10.830 align:middle line:84%
And they will hold
their class here.

00:33:10.830 --> 00:33:12.996 align:middle line:84%
We will set out the books,
and they'll come and hold

00:33:12.996 --> 00:33:14.550 align:middle line:84%
their class, or if
we have meetings.

00:33:14.550 --> 00:33:18.990 align:middle line:84%
But basically this is for
programs and for classes.

00:33:18.990 --> 00:33:21.150 align:middle line:84%
Downstairs is where the
real work gets done.

00:33:21.150 --> 00:33:24.440 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: And
how do you decide

00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:26.280 align:middle line:84%
which kind of
acquisitions you're

00:33:26.280 --> 00:33:28.090 align:middle line:90%
going to get for the library?

00:33:28.090 --> 00:33:29.972 align:middle line:84%
Because rare books
are expensive.

00:33:29.972 --> 00:33:30.930 align:middle line:90%
STEVE TABOR: Well, yes.

00:33:30.930 --> 00:33:32.263 align:middle line:90%
We have to be choosy, of course.

00:33:32.263 --> 00:33:34.890 align:middle line:84%
We base it on Clark's
original interests.

00:33:34.890 --> 00:33:37.560 align:middle line:84%
But we also have to sidestep
a little bit in areas where

00:33:37.560 --> 00:33:39.035 align:middle line:90%
it's gotten too expensive.

00:33:39.035 --> 00:33:40.410 align:middle line:84%
For instance now
we're collecting

00:33:40.410 --> 00:33:44.101 align:middle line:84%
more European connections to
England in the 18th century

00:33:44.101 --> 00:33:45.600 align:middle line:84%
because the English
books themselves

00:33:45.600 --> 00:33:46.700 align:middle line:90%
have gotten so expensive.

00:33:46.700 --> 00:33:49.539 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Yeah, money always
enters into it, doesn't it?

00:33:49.539 --> 00:33:51.330 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: Well, it's
only nat-- you see,

00:33:51.330 --> 00:33:53.910 align:middle line:84%
we have another major library
in the area, the Huntington

00:33:53.910 --> 00:33:56.610 align:middle line:84%
Library, which is a
wonderful, wonderful library.

00:33:56.610 --> 00:33:58.990 align:middle line:90%
So in one sense they overlap.

00:33:58.990 --> 00:34:00.420 align:middle line:84%
But the Huntington
is not allowed

00:34:00.420 --> 00:34:01.860 align:middle line:90%
to collect European stuff.

00:34:01.860 --> 00:34:03.060 align:middle line:90%
They only do England.

00:34:03.060 --> 00:34:05.280 align:middle line:84%
So by us collecting
European, we're

00:34:05.280 --> 00:34:07.890 align:middle line:84%
in a sense going a
different direction, which

00:34:07.890 --> 00:34:10.170 align:middle line:84%
will increase the
value of the Clark

00:34:10.170 --> 00:34:11.460 align:middle line:90%
and the Huntington together.

00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:12.780 align:middle line:90%
And we work very well together.

00:34:12.780 --> 00:34:14.363 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: And
there's another room

00:34:14.363 --> 00:34:15.929 align:middle line:90%
exactly like this one.

00:34:15.929 --> 00:34:16.250 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Right across here.

00:34:16.250 --> 00:34:18.040 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Right over here
on the other side of the hall.

00:34:18.040 --> 00:34:19.260 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: That is correct.

00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:20.540 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: This must
have been something

00:34:20.540 --> 00:34:21.960 align:middle line:90%
when it was a private library.

00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.834 align:middle line:84%
And he just came down here
to walk amongst his books.

00:34:25.834 --> 00:34:28.000 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: And he had two
librarians to help them.

00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:29.520 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER:
Full-time librarians?

00:34:29.520 --> 00:34:31.138 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: Two
full-time librarians.

00:34:31.138 --> 00:34:32.929 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: He didn't
have to-- he didn't

00:34:32.929 --> 00:34:34.405 align:middle line:90%
have to worry about money.

00:34:34.405 --> 00:34:35.280 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Exactly.

00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:36.870 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: UCLA does.

00:34:36.870 --> 00:34:38.330 align:middle line:90%
Mr. Clark didn't.

00:34:38.330 --> 00:34:41.310 align:middle line:84%
All right, let's go downstairs
because there's actually

00:34:41.310 --> 00:34:44.880 align:middle line:84%
a lot of work going on
downstairs right now.

00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:48.179 align:middle line:90%


00:34:48.179 --> 00:34:51.091 align:middle line:84%
OK, now we get a
little quiet, don't we?

00:34:51.091 --> 00:34:52.090 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: [INAUDIBLE]

00:34:52.090 --> 00:34:52.920 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Well,
don't be that quiet,

00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:54.659 align:middle line:90%
or we won't be able to hear you.

00:34:54.659 --> 00:34:55.860 align:middle line:90%
What's going on in here?

00:34:55.860 --> 00:34:57.630 align:middle line:84%
This is where the
work of the library

00:34:57.630 --> 00:34:58.860 align:middle line:90%
is being done right now.

00:34:58.860 --> 00:35:00.220 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: This is
our major reading room.

00:35:00.220 --> 00:35:01.554 align:middle line:90%
This is where our scholars come.

00:35:01.554 --> 00:35:03.345 align:middle line:84%
And they get their
books delivered to them.

00:35:03.345 --> 00:35:04.620 align:middle line:90%
They have to sign up for them.

00:35:04.620 --> 00:35:07.650 align:middle line:84%
And they are here doing research
on some of the major topics

00:35:07.650 --> 00:35:08.695 align:middle line:90%
that we deal with.

00:35:08.695 --> 00:35:10.820 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Now, do you
know all of these people?

00:35:10.820 --> 00:35:12.510 align:middle line:84%
They have to be here
for a while, don't they?

00:35:12.510 --> 00:35:13.770 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: They have
to be here, right.

00:35:13.770 --> 00:35:14.644 align:middle line:90%
They're here to work.

00:35:14.644 --> 00:35:17.210 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: I mean, they're
here for weeks or months?

00:35:17.210 --> 00:35:19.335 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: The people
you're looking at right now

00:35:19.335 --> 00:35:20.010 align:middle line:90%
have been here--

00:35:20.010 --> 00:35:21.750 align:middle line:84%
are here on post-doctoral
fellowships.

00:35:21.750 --> 00:35:24.595 align:middle line:84%
That means they are here between
six months and two years.

00:35:24.595 --> 00:35:25.470 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Really?

00:35:25.470 --> 00:35:26.152 align:middle line:90%
At this library?

00:35:26.152 --> 00:35:27.360 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: At this library.

00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:29.670 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Excuse me, can
I interrupt you for a minute?

00:35:29.670 --> 00:35:30.360 align:middle line:90%
SPEAKER 1: Sure.

00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.380 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: You're working on?

00:35:32.380 --> 00:35:35.490 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 1: I'm working on
spiritual biographies written

00:35:35.490 --> 00:35:37.410 align:middle line:90%
in the 18th century in England.

00:35:37.410 --> 00:35:39.240 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER:
Spiritual biographies

00:35:39.240 --> 00:35:42.220 align:middle line:84%
written in the 18th
century in England.

00:35:42.220 --> 00:35:47.250 align:middle line:84%
That's a very rather
narrow scope there.

00:35:47.250 --> 00:35:49.980 align:middle line:84%
So how did you know to
come to this library

00:35:49.980 --> 00:35:52.410 align:middle line:90%
to do the research?

00:35:52.410 --> 00:35:54.840 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 1: Actually
I made a comparison

00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:59.730 align:middle line:84%
between the spiritual writing
in Germany coming out of Pietism

00:35:59.730 --> 00:36:03.000 align:middle line:84%
and the spiritual
writing coming out

00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:07.560 align:middle line:84%
in England of the nonconformist
Protestant groups.

00:36:07.560 --> 00:36:13.560 align:middle line:84%
So when I studied the literature
in Germany about England,

00:36:13.560 --> 00:36:16.230 align:middle line:84%
I realized that there
must be literature.

00:36:16.230 --> 00:36:22.825 align:middle line:84%
And, you know, the Clark library
is famous, even in Germany--

00:36:22.825 --> 00:36:23.700 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Really?

00:36:23.700 --> 00:36:25.290 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 1: Not
really in Germany,

00:36:25.290 --> 00:36:32.749 align:middle line:84%
but I think in the groups in
which people do research--

00:36:32.749 --> 00:36:33.540 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Yeah.

00:36:33.540 --> 00:36:35.530 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 1: --about the
early modern period.

00:36:35.530 --> 00:36:40.020 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: So the library
is known in a very narrow way

00:36:40.020 --> 00:36:43.972 align:middle line:84%
by scholars who know where to
go to look for certain things.

00:36:43.972 --> 00:36:46.180 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: It's known
worldwide for its collection.

00:36:46.180 --> 00:36:48.356 align:middle line:90%
No one in Los Angeles knows it.

00:36:48.356 --> 00:36:49.610 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Is that so?

00:36:49.610 --> 00:36:51.300 align:middle line:90%
Well, you're here from Germany.

00:36:51.300 --> 00:36:53.444 align:middle line:84%
And you're going to
be here how long?

00:36:53.444 --> 00:36:54.360 align:middle line:90%
SPEAKER 1: Six months.

00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:55.401 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Six months.

00:36:55.401 --> 00:36:57.490 align:middle line:84%
So is this your chair,
is this your table?

00:36:57.490 --> 00:37:00.630 align:middle line:90%
People know not to bother it?

00:37:00.630 --> 00:37:02.800 align:middle line:84%
This is where you
come every day?

00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:05.190 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 1: Actually I
have a cubicle back there

00:37:05.190 --> 00:37:07.530 align:middle line:90%
in the library where I can work.

00:37:07.530 --> 00:37:08.430 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Yeah.

00:37:08.430 --> 00:37:10.111 align:middle line:84%
So you've got them
spread around.

00:37:10.111 --> 00:37:11.610 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: Got
them spread around.

00:37:11.610 --> 00:37:13.526 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: You know
all these other people?

00:37:13.526 --> 00:37:14.580 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Yes, I do.

00:37:14.580 --> 00:37:18.090 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: You're working on?

00:37:18.090 --> 00:37:19.500 align:middle line:90%
SPEAKER 2: Early modern science.

00:37:19.500 --> 00:37:20.958 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Early
modern science.

00:37:20.958 --> 00:37:22.710 align:middle line:90%
And how long have you been here?

00:37:22.710 --> 00:37:24.630 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 2: I've been
here since the summer.

00:37:24.630 --> 00:37:27.580 align:middle line:84%
But my fellowship
is for two years.

00:37:27.580 --> 00:37:29.700 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: So you're
a long-term tenant?

00:37:29.700 --> 00:37:31.710 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 2: Yeah,
I'm the long-term.

00:37:31.710 --> 00:37:33.802 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: And this
fellow is working on?

00:37:33.802 --> 00:37:36.010 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 3: Comparative
studies in law and literature.

00:37:36.010 --> 00:37:38.077 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: OK,
from which century?

00:37:38.077 --> 00:37:40.410 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 3: 18th century, late
18th century specifically.

00:37:40.410 --> 00:37:41.880 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: And you're
here for how long?

00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:42.754 align:middle line:90%
SPEAKER 3: 10 months.

00:37:42.754 --> 00:37:44.680 align:middle line:84%
I'm the dissertation
fellow for this year.

00:37:44.680 --> 00:37:47.557 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Now do they
have everything you need here?

00:37:47.557 --> 00:37:49.140 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 3: Well I
need so many things.

00:37:49.140 --> 00:37:50.100 align:middle line:90%
No place has everything.

00:37:50.100 --> 00:37:52.016 align:middle line:84%
But the Clark has a very
extensive collection,

00:37:52.016 --> 00:37:54.129 align:middle line:84%
so I have much, much of
what I need here, yes.

00:37:54.129 --> 00:37:55.170 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: It's known.

00:37:55.170 --> 00:37:56.400 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 3: More than
10 months worth, yes.

00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:57.240 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: And look at this.

00:37:57.240 --> 00:37:58.110 align:middle line:90%
You're reading this.

00:37:58.110 --> 00:37:59.292 align:middle line:90%
This looks old.

00:37:59.292 --> 00:38:00.000 align:middle line:90%
SPEAKER 3: It is.

00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:03.630 align:middle line:84%
This is actually
published, written in 1762

00:38:03.630 --> 00:38:06.070 align:middle line:84%
and published the same year
by George Campbell, who

00:38:06.070 --> 00:38:08.550 align:middle line:84%
is a scholar from
Aberdeen, Scotland,

00:38:08.550 --> 00:38:11.820 align:middle line:84%
refuting David Hume's
Refutation of Miracles.

00:38:11.820 --> 00:38:13.220 align:middle line:90%
So it's a counter refutation.

00:38:13.220 --> 00:38:15.570 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Now you have
to be very careful when you

00:38:15.570 --> 00:38:17.374 align:middle line:90%
turn these pages, don't you?

00:38:17.374 --> 00:38:18.790 align:middle line:84%
You have to wear
gloves when you--

00:38:18.790 --> 00:38:21.123 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 3: Well, especially
because Suzanne watches you.

00:38:21.123 --> 00:38:22.289 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, very, very careful.

00:38:22.289 --> 00:38:22.830 align:middle line:90%
That's right.

00:38:22.830 --> 00:38:24.420 align:middle line:84%
So that's why they have
these here, that, you know,

00:38:24.420 --> 00:38:25.605 align:middle line:90%
you don't touch the book.

00:38:25.605 --> 00:38:28.230 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: So how do you turn
the pages without touching it?

00:38:28.230 --> 00:38:29.350 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 3: Well,
you're very careful,

00:38:29.350 --> 00:38:30.600 align:middle line:90%
of course, such as this.

00:38:30.600 --> 00:38:32.544 align:middle line:90%
Very cautiously weigh them down.

00:38:32.544 --> 00:38:34.710 align:middle line:84%
Put these over it to make
sure they just don't turn.

00:38:34.710 --> 00:38:36.410 align:middle line:90%
I mean, it's a fine science.

00:38:36.410 --> 00:38:37.549 align:middle line:90%
But you learn it quickly.

00:38:37.549 --> 00:38:38.340 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Yeah.

00:38:38.340 --> 00:38:41.330 align:middle line:84%
We'll go talk to her
in just a minute.

00:38:41.330 --> 00:38:43.890 align:middle line:90%
And you're working on?

00:38:43.890 --> 00:38:46.050 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 4: Late 17th
century astrology.

00:38:46.050 --> 00:38:47.370 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Oh my gosh.

00:38:47.370 --> 00:38:51.390 align:middle line:84%
And this is actual writing
about this subject?

00:38:51.390 --> 00:38:53.430 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 4: Well, this
is actually a herbal,

00:38:53.430 --> 00:38:54.670 align:middle line:90%
which is about plants.

00:38:54.670 --> 00:38:57.060 align:middle line:84%
But they ascribed each
plant to a planet.

00:38:57.060 --> 00:38:59.700 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: The virtues
of English plants.

00:38:59.700 --> 00:39:00.660 align:middle line:90%
SPEAKER 4: Yeah.

00:39:00.660 --> 00:39:02.580 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: This goes back to?

00:39:02.580 --> 00:39:04.560 align:middle line:84%
SPEAKER 4: This was
published in 1664.

00:39:04.560 --> 00:39:06.934 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Oh my gosh.

00:39:06.934 --> 00:39:08.225 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Good stuff, right?

00:39:08.225 --> 00:39:10.284 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Wow.

00:39:10.284 --> 00:39:11.950 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: And we
have all this stuff.

00:39:11.950 --> 00:39:12.930 align:middle line:90%
We also have newer stuff.

00:39:12.930 --> 00:39:13.900 align:middle line:90%
All good stuff though.

00:39:13.900 --> 00:39:17.190 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: But let's meet
the lady who's the trouble-maker

00:39:17.190 --> 00:39:18.390 align:middle line:90%
over here, who makes sure--

00:39:18.390 --> 00:39:20.790 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: I told her
to leave her whip at home.

00:39:20.790 --> 00:39:22.980 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: So you really
ride a tight ship here.

00:39:22.980 --> 00:39:26.730 align:middle line:84%
Because you've got to-- these
are valuable, valuable books.

00:39:26.730 --> 00:39:27.930 align:middle line:90%
Come on, stand up over here.

00:39:27.930 --> 00:39:31.330 align:middle line:84%
Let's get a-- it these
are very valuable.

00:39:31.330 --> 00:39:34.290 align:middle line:84%
So you have to kind
of make sure that--

00:39:34.290 --> 00:39:37.380 align:middle line:84%
well I would think that
anyone who comes in here

00:39:37.380 --> 00:39:40.757 align:middle line:84%
knows how to treat
this kind of material.

00:39:40.757 --> 00:39:42.090 align:middle line:90%
SUZANNE: Not always, not always.

00:39:42.090 --> 00:39:45.060 align:middle line:84%
And our idea is not
just to protect them

00:39:45.060 --> 00:39:47.700 align:middle line:84%
because they're valuable, but
to protect them for readers

00:39:47.700 --> 00:39:49.540 align:middle line:90%
who come after these readers.

00:39:49.540 --> 00:39:52.194 align:middle line:84%
And people are, on the
whole, very respectful

00:39:52.194 --> 00:39:52.860 align:middle line:90%
of the material.

00:39:52.860 --> 00:39:54.526 align:middle line:84%
They just need a
little bit of guidance,

00:39:54.526 --> 00:39:55.480 align:middle line:90%
and they do just fine.

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HUELL HOWSER: How finite
are these materials?

00:39:58.230 --> 00:40:01.620 align:middle line:90%
How long can they last?

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SUZANNE: Well the strongest
part of our collection

00:40:03.990 --> 00:40:06.450 align:middle line:84%
is the 17th and 18th
century because the paper is

00:40:06.450 --> 00:40:08.070 align:middle line:90%
of such great quality.

00:40:08.070 --> 00:40:10.350 align:middle line:84%
And the leather binding
will sometimes give out.

00:40:10.350 --> 00:40:13.590 align:middle line:84%
But we can do
restoration on that.

00:40:13.590 --> 00:40:15.630 align:middle line:84%
The most delicate
part of the collection

00:40:15.630 --> 00:40:19.230 align:middle line:84%
is the 19th century, the late
19th century Oscar Wilde.

00:40:19.230 --> 00:40:21.390 align:middle line:84%
The paper is very acidic
and so is the ink.

00:40:21.390 --> 00:40:24.000 align:middle line:84%
And it's just sort of
eating away at each other.

00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:25.970 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Oh, so we
were better at it back

00:40:25.970 --> 00:40:28.652 align:middle line:84%
200 or 300 years ago than
we were 100 years ago.

00:40:28.652 --> 00:40:30.360 align:middle line:84%
SUZANNE: Well, the
Industrial Revolution,

00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.443 align:middle line:84%
we were just learning how
to mechanize everything.

00:40:32.443 --> 00:40:35.070 align:middle line:84%
And we hadn't quite got
all the materials down yet

00:40:35.070 --> 00:40:36.540 align:middle line:90%
to make something last.

00:40:36.540 --> 00:40:38.640 align:middle line:84%
Now we're much
more careful to use

00:40:38.640 --> 00:40:41.160 align:middle line:84%
acid-free paper
and inks that will

00:40:41.160 --> 00:40:42.630 align:middle line:90%
last for a much longer time.

00:40:42.630 --> 00:40:43.380 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Wow.

00:40:43.380 --> 00:40:44.430 align:middle line:90%
This is just fascinating.

00:40:44.430 --> 00:40:46.350 align:middle line:90%
Thank you very much.

00:40:46.350 --> 00:40:52.830 align:middle line:84%
Go back and make sure he's not
touching the page back there.

00:40:52.830 --> 00:40:53.855 align:middle line:90%
Well, this is--

00:40:53.855 --> 00:40:54.830 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: You know, I
would like to introduce you

00:40:54.830 --> 00:40:56.370 align:middle line:90%
to Karen Brody, too.

00:40:56.370 --> 00:40:57.930 align:middle line:90%
We have a support group.

00:40:57.930 --> 00:41:00.660 align:middle line:84%
Obviously, to raise money
for books, we need help.

00:41:00.660 --> 00:41:03.699 align:middle line:84%
And we have a wonderful group of
people who raise money for us.

00:41:03.699 --> 00:41:04.740 align:middle line:90%
And Karen is one of them.

00:41:04.740 --> 00:41:06.690 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: How hard
is it to raise money

00:41:06.690 --> 00:41:09.510 align:middle line:90%
to purchase rare books?

00:41:09.510 --> 00:41:11.204 align:middle line:90%
Stand up here and talk to me.

00:41:11.204 --> 00:41:12.370 align:middle line:90%
KAREN BRODY: How hard is it?

00:41:12.370 --> 00:41:12.995 align:middle line:90%
It's very hard.

00:41:12.995 --> 00:41:16.950 align:middle line:84%
Because the community is
not used to understanding

00:41:16.950 --> 00:41:19.037 align:middle line:84%
the importance of
these rare books.

00:41:19.037 --> 00:41:21.120 align:middle line:84%
And that's why we're here
, trying to get the most

00:41:21.120 --> 00:41:23.670 align:middle line:90%
important books bought.

00:41:23.670 --> 00:41:26.010 align:middle line:90%
And they're very expensive.

00:41:26.010 --> 00:41:28.260 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: And how do you
find out what's available

00:41:28.260 --> 00:41:29.580 align:middle line:90%
and what you--

00:41:29.580 --> 00:41:31.140 align:middle line:84%
KAREN BRODY: What
needs to be bought?

00:41:31.140 --> 00:41:31.620 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Right.

00:41:31.620 --> 00:41:33.411 align:middle line:84%
KAREN BRODY: Well we
have a head librarian.

00:41:33.411 --> 00:41:35.580 align:middle line:84%
And obviously he's very
conversant in what's

00:41:35.580 --> 00:41:38.900 align:middle line:84%
out in the community and
available through auctions,

00:41:38.900 --> 00:41:40.410 align:middle line:90%
rare book dealers.

00:41:40.410 --> 00:41:44.100 align:middle line:84%
And he presents to us that
which is most important

00:41:44.100 --> 00:41:46.080 align:middle line:90%
for the library to obtain.

00:41:46.080 --> 00:41:49.680 align:middle line:84%
And we go after individuals
who are interested.

00:41:49.680 --> 00:41:51.930 align:middle line:84%
And there is a small
community out there

00:41:51.930 --> 00:41:55.020 align:middle line:90%
who really loves rare books.

00:41:55.020 --> 00:41:57.210 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: So this
library is really

00:41:57.210 --> 00:42:01.815 align:middle line:84%
establishing its credentials
and its reputation

00:42:01.815 --> 00:42:02.607 align:middle line:90%
all over the world.

00:42:02.607 --> 00:42:04.439 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: It's one
of the great rare book

00:42:04.439 --> 00:42:06.150 align:middle line:84%
libraries of the
country, and one

00:42:06.150 --> 00:42:08.440 align:middle line:84%
of the great ones in the
world, actually, yeah.

00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:11.260 align:middle line:84%
And we try to have
relationships with other ones.

00:42:11.260 --> 00:42:13.150 align:middle line:84%
So, you know, we've
run programs together.

00:42:13.150 --> 00:42:15.060 align:middle line:90%
We do a lot of things together.

00:42:15.060 --> 00:42:17.170 align:middle line:90%
They know about us out there.

00:42:17.170 --> 00:42:18.270 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Not in LA.

00:42:18.270 --> 00:42:20.600 align:middle line:90%
PETER REILL: Not in LA, right.

00:42:20.600 --> 00:42:22.590 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: OK,
we're back out in front

00:42:22.590 --> 00:42:25.510 align:middle line:84%
of this magnificent
little library

00:42:25.510 --> 00:42:26.760 align:middle line:90%
I want to say little library.

00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:28.050 align:middle line:90%
But it's really not little.

00:42:28.050 --> 00:42:28.650 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: It's
not that little.

00:42:28.650 --> 00:42:30.510 align:middle line:84%
We have about 100,000
volumes in it.

00:42:30.510 --> 00:42:32.970 align:middle line:84%
And the piece of
land is five acres,

00:42:32.970 --> 00:42:35.760 align:middle line:84%
open to the public,
at least the land

00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.330 align:middle line:84%
is open at any time
during the business

00:42:38.330 --> 00:42:39.919 align:middle line:90%
hours, between 9 and 5.

00:42:39.919 --> 00:42:42.210 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Now Laura, you
have something to give us.

00:42:42.210 --> 00:42:43.020 align:middle line:84%
LAURA: I have
something yo give you.

00:42:43.020 --> 00:42:44.790 align:middle line:84%
Peter has said many
times that we're not

00:42:44.790 --> 00:42:46.770 align:middle line:90%
that well-known in Los Angeles.

00:42:46.770 --> 00:42:48.810 align:middle line:84%
And one of the ways,
we've just created

00:42:48.810 --> 00:42:51.980 align:middle line:84%
these t-shirts that say
Clark Library with our logo.

00:42:51.980 --> 00:42:53.199 align:middle line:90%
And we hope you'll wear it.

00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:54.990 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: So how
is the marketing going

00:42:54.990 --> 00:42:56.880 align:middle line:90%
on Clark Library t-shirts?

00:42:56.880 --> 00:42:59.610 align:middle line:84%
LAURA: Well, we just got
them in a couple months ago.

00:42:59.610 --> 00:43:01.792 align:middle line:84%
I think we've sold
about 10 or 20.

00:43:01.792 --> 00:43:03.500 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: We're
getting the word out.

00:43:03.500 --> 00:43:05.333 align:middle line:84%
LAURA: And if you want
to come and visit us,

00:43:05.333 --> 00:43:07.830 align:middle line:84%
we'll sell all your
visitors t-shirts too.

00:43:07.830 --> 00:43:09.830 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: All right,
now what are the hours?

00:43:09.830 --> 00:43:12.840 align:middle line:84%
Because this is
open to the public.

00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:14.260 align:middle line:90%
LAURA: It's open to the public.

00:43:14.260 --> 00:43:17.040 align:middle line:84%
And we're open Monday
through Friday, 9:00 to 5:00.

00:43:17.040 --> 00:43:19.650 align:middle line:84%
If anybody wants to come to
have a tour, a private tour,

00:43:19.650 --> 00:43:22.200 align:middle line:84%
we can do that by appointment
by calling the library.

00:43:22.200 --> 00:43:24.829 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: So people need
to call before they come by.

00:43:24.829 --> 00:43:26.370 align:middle line:84%
LAURA: Absolutely,
they need to call.

00:43:26.370 --> 00:43:27.630 align:middle line:90%
This is a working library.

00:43:27.630 --> 00:43:29.310 align:middle line:84%
You talked to the
scholars yourself.

00:43:29.310 --> 00:43:32.402 align:middle line:84%
So people, our staff, are
real busy with the readers.

00:43:32.402 --> 00:43:34.110 align:middle line:84%
But if you want to
set up an appointment,

00:43:34.110 --> 00:43:35.370 align:middle line:84%
we'll be happy to
show you around.

00:43:35.370 --> 00:43:37.320 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: And they have
beautiful grounds here.

00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.720 align:middle line:84%
We really didn't have time
to walk through the grounds.

00:43:39.720 --> 00:43:42.087 align:middle line:84%
But there's some beautiful
big old fig trees back here.

00:43:42.087 --> 00:43:43.920 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: We have a
beautiful tree there.

00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.128 align:middle line:84%
And people from the neighborhood
sometimes even bring

00:43:46.128 --> 00:43:48.750 align:middle line:84%
a picnic here, sit
down, enjoy it.

00:43:48.750 --> 00:43:49.540 align:middle line:90%
Kids come.

00:43:49.540 --> 00:43:52.230 align:middle line:84%
So the grounds are open
all the time as we're open.

00:43:52.230 --> 00:43:54.450 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: It's very
user-friendly even though

00:43:54.450 --> 00:43:57.450 align:middle line:84%
it's full of very valuable,
rare books so it's kind

00:43:57.450 --> 00:43:58.485 align:middle line:90%
of an interesting--

00:43:58.485 --> 00:43:59.090 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: And
grumpy scholars.

00:43:59.090 --> 00:44:00.650 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: And
grumpy scholars.

00:44:00.650 --> 00:44:03.750 align:middle line:84%
It's kind of an interesting
yin and yang going on here.

00:44:03.750 --> 00:44:05.670 align:middle line:90%
Thank you very, very much.

00:44:05.670 --> 00:44:06.282 align:middle line:90%
Thank you.

00:44:06.282 --> 00:44:06.990 align:middle line:90%
LAURA: Thank you.

00:44:06.990 --> 00:44:08.010 align:middle line:90%
Thanks for coming, Huell.

00:44:08.010 --> 00:44:08.380 align:middle line:90%
It's been great.

00:44:08.380 --> 00:44:08.540 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Thank you.

00:44:08.540 --> 00:44:09.400 align:middle line:90%
We finally made it.

00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:10.590 align:middle line:84%
You know, we've been
wanting to visit

00:44:10.590 --> 00:44:11.870 align:middle line:90%
this place for a long time.

00:44:11.870 --> 00:44:14.300 align:middle line:84%
LAURA: I think I've spoken
to you over many months.

00:44:14.300 --> 00:44:14.780 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Years.

00:44:14.780 --> 00:44:15.900 align:middle line:84%
LAURA: And it's great
to have you here.

00:44:15.900 --> 00:44:16.300 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Delighted.

00:44:16.300 --> 00:44:16.770 align:middle line:90%
This has been great.

00:44:16.770 --> 00:44:17.440 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: Thank
you very much.

00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:18.731 align:middle line:90%
It's been wonderful having you.

00:44:18.731 --> 00:44:22.560 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: We have visited
two hidden places here

00:44:22.560 --> 00:44:24.637 align:middle line:84%
in Los Angeles, one
on the USC campus--

00:44:24.637 --> 00:44:26.220 align:middle line:84%
PETER REILL: We don't
say that loudly.

00:44:26.220 --> 00:44:29.610 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: --and one
connected with UCLA.

00:44:29.610 --> 00:44:33.090 align:middle line:84%
Both of them wonderful
assets for our community.

00:44:33.090 --> 00:44:36.450 align:middle line:84%
They are rich in history and
they're both serving a purpose.

00:44:36.450 --> 00:44:38.390 align:middle line:84%
And they're open for
all of us to enjoy.

00:44:38.390 --> 00:44:42.900 align:middle line:90%


00:44:42.900 --> 00:44:44.810 align:middle line:84%
Well, I hope you
enjoyed our visit

00:44:44.810 --> 00:44:48.200 align:middle line:84%
to the Hancock Museum
on the USC campus

00:44:48.200 --> 00:44:51.680 align:middle line:84%
and to the William Clark
Memorial Library, which is part

00:44:51.680 --> 00:44:54.860 align:middle line:90%
of the UCLA library system.

00:44:54.860 --> 00:44:58.280 align:middle line:84%
Of course, both the
museum and the library,

00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:00.740 align:middle line:84%
hidden gems, kind
of out of the way,

00:45:00.740 --> 00:45:03.560 align:middle line:84%
wonderful places
here in our city.

00:45:03.560 --> 00:45:05.870 align:middle line:84%
Now, we ended up having
a little bit of time

00:45:05.870 --> 00:45:07.400 align:middle line:90%
left at the end of this hour.

00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:11.960 align:middle line:84%
So we thought we would go to
another hidden place, a hidden

00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:14.300 align:middle line:90%
gem here in Southern California.

00:45:14.300 --> 00:45:18.750 align:middle line:84%
Actually it was the subject of
a Videolog we did years ago.

00:45:18.750 --> 00:45:20.600 align:middle line:90%
It's one of your favorites.

00:45:20.600 --> 00:45:23.720 align:middle line:84%
So get ready to take a
hike of a couple of miles.

00:45:23.720 --> 00:45:26.450 align:middle line:84%
We're going to go to
the San Gabriel Valley

00:45:26.450 --> 00:45:30.615 align:middle line:84%
and revisit, by way of an
old Videolog, the Bridge

00:45:30.615 --> 00:45:31.115 align:middle line:90%
to Nowhere.

00:45:31.115 --> 00:45:42.280 align:middle line:90%


00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:43.930 align:middle line:84%
You know everybody
is always talking

00:45:43.930 --> 00:45:46.930 align:middle line:84%
about how crowded it is
here in Southern California.

00:45:46.930 --> 00:45:48.620 align:middle line:90%
And that's true.

00:45:48.620 --> 00:45:51.220 align:middle line:84%
But it's also true that with
just a little bit of effort,

00:45:51.220 --> 00:45:53.260 align:middle line:90%
you can get away from all that.

00:45:53.260 --> 00:45:55.060 align:middle line:84%
For example, right
now I'm seated

00:45:55.060 --> 00:45:56.260 align:middle line:90%
with two of my new friends.

00:45:56.260 --> 00:46:00.070 align:middle line:84%
We're taking a break here beside
this beautiful, clear stream

00:46:00.070 --> 00:46:01.600 align:middle line:90%
in this wilderness area.

00:46:01.600 --> 00:46:03.880 align:middle line:84%
And we're just
about 20 miles away

00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:07.900 align:middle line:84%
as the crow flies from
downtown Los Angeles.

00:46:07.900 --> 00:46:10.810 align:middle line:84%
Now we're taking a break
because we're worn out.

00:46:10.810 --> 00:46:15.400 align:middle line:84%
We're worn out because we have
spent this entire day in search

00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:18.400 align:middle line:84%
of one of the most
obscure and little known

00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:21.430 align:middle line:84%
landmarks in all of
Southern California.

00:46:21.430 --> 00:46:24.750 align:middle line:90%


00:46:24.750 --> 00:46:27.120 align:middle line:84%
The adventure started
at the crack of dawn

00:46:27.120 --> 00:46:29.820 align:middle line:84%
as we all met up at
the East Fork station

00:46:29.820 --> 00:46:31.670 align:middle line:90%
in the San Gabriel Mountains.

00:46:31.670 --> 00:46:36.000 align:middle line:84%
Four guys and a horse, setting
out on a five mile hike

00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:41.160 align:middle line:84%
back into East Fork Canyon in
search of a man-made landmark

00:46:41.160 --> 00:46:44.672 align:middle line:84%
that very few people
even know exist.

00:46:44.672 --> 00:46:47.648 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC PLAYING]

00:46:47.648 --> 00:47:05.540 align:middle line:90%


00:47:05.540 --> 00:47:08.570 align:middle line:84%
Now to get there, we basically
followed the east fork

00:47:08.570 --> 00:47:10.550 align:middle line:90%
of the San Gabriel River.

00:47:10.550 --> 00:47:13.920 align:middle line:84%
In fact, we crossed that
river about 15 times

00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:16.220 align:middle line:84%
and I gave up
trying to keep dry.

00:47:16.220 --> 00:47:18.620 align:middle line:84%
The fellows with me,
two of whom were rangers

00:47:18.620 --> 00:47:22.820 align:middle line:84%
in this territory and the other,
a writer of books on this area,

00:47:22.820 --> 00:47:27.260 align:middle line:84%
kept me entertained all along
the way with great stories.

00:47:27.260 --> 00:47:30.230 align:middle line:84%
And before I knew it, we
had hiked those five miles

00:47:30.230 --> 00:47:32.660 align:middle line:90%
and had reached the landmark.

00:47:32.660 --> 00:47:34.610 align:middle line:84%
And even though I
had a mental picture

00:47:34.610 --> 00:47:36.830 align:middle line:84%
of what I thought
it would look like,

00:47:36.830 --> 00:47:40.815 align:middle line:84%
I wasn't even halfway prepared
for how magnificent it really

00:47:40.815 --> 00:47:41.315 align:middle line:90%
was.

00:47:41.315 --> 00:47:47.190 align:middle line:90%


00:47:47.190 --> 00:47:49.950 align:middle line:84%
The locals call it
the Bridge to Nowhere.

00:47:49.950 --> 00:47:56.725 align:middle line:90%


00:47:56.725 --> 00:47:58.100 align:middle line:84%
DON STRIKKERS: If
you over here--

00:47:58.100 --> 00:47:58.470 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Oh wow.

00:47:58.470 --> 00:47:59.420 align:middle line:84%
DON STRIKKERS: --you
can get a view down.

00:47:59.420 --> 00:48:00.760 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Look at this view.

00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:01.845 align:middle line:90%
JOHN ROBINSON: [INAUDIBLE]

00:48:01.845 --> 00:48:02.636 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Whoa.

00:48:02.636 --> 00:48:05.192 align:middle line:90%


00:48:05.192 --> 00:48:07.400 align:middle line:84%
JOHN ROBINSON: You can see
this bridge is quite high.

00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.610 align:middle line:90%
HUELL HOWSER: Oh, man.

00:48:10.610 --> 00:48:12.390 align:middle line:90%
Look at that.

00:48:12.390 --> 00:48:14.540 align:middle line:90%
Oh.

00:48:14.540 --> 00:48:16.880 align:middle line:90%
It was quite a sight.

00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:19.340 align:middle line:84%
And after looking over
the side a while longer,

00:48:19.340 --> 00:48:22.610 align:middle line:84%
we hiked down to the
bottom of East Fork Canyon,

00:48:22.610 --> 00:48:24.920 align:middle line:84%
to the Narrows
where we had lunch.

00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:28.410 align:middle line:84%
And I found out the
history of the bridge.

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JOHN ROBINSON: The bridge was
part of a Los Angeles County

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project to build all the
way up to the East Fork,

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over Blue Ridge, and
down to Wrightwood.

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And that was planned
back in the late 1920s.

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And they actually
started on the highway

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up the East Fork in 1929.

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And when they reached
here about 1935,

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they built this bridge, at
that time with prison labor.

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HUELL HOWSER: Now they
finished the bridge in 1930--

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JOHN ROBINSON: 1936.

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November 1936 it was finished.

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HUELL HOWSER: But
soon after that,

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something rather
traumatic happened.

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JOHN ROBINSON:
Very much so, yes.

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The night of March 1 and
2 1938, 14 inches of rain

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fell in one night up here in
the San Gabriel Mountains.

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And the flood washed
down this canyon

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and washed everything
out except this bridge.

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Everything else was gone.

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All of that road work
and the other bridges,

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which were quite a bit longer.

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But this was left.

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HUELL HOWSER: Now why
did this bridge survive

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the flood and nothing else did?

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JOHN ROBINSON: Probably
because it's so high.

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HUELL HOWSER: I got you.

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JOHN ROBINSON: You see,
well above the flood level.

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DON STRIKKERS: That
bridge was about 150 feet

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above the riverbed.

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And the flood stage
probably was about 50 feet

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flowing through it.

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So would have been about
a third of the way up,

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enough so that it might
have hit the abutments.

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But the main part
of the structure

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was safe from the flood.

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HUELL HOWSER: So there was a
lot of water going through here.

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DON STRIKKERS: Right.

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Where we were standing, it was
probably over 50 feet deep.

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HUELL HOWSER: How did it get
its name, the Bridge to Nowhere?

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JOHN ROBINSON: Hikers
gave it that name,

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probably in the 1950s.

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You know, they would be
hiking up this canyon.

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And then all of a
sudden they would

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come to this bridge, which
seemed like that it just

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led to nowhere.

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HUELL HOWSER: Well it just
it does lead to nowhere.

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JOHN ROBINSON: Yes it does.

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And so it is aptly named.

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HUELL HOWSER: What role do
you think this bridge plays

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in the history, and
folklore, and whatever

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of Southern California?

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I mean it's kind of one of
these little forgotten--

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DON STRIKKERS: I
think it's an example

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of there are some places
where mother nature is still

00:50:44.540 --> 00:50:45.170 align:middle line:90%
in charge.

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And it's a good reminder that
man can't control everything.

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There are some
places that you've

00:50:50.690 --> 00:50:53.970 align:middle line:84%
got to respect what nature's
forces are, and stand back

00:50:53.970 --> 00:50:54.470 align:middle line:90%
from.

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This is a good example.

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And there are several others
in this mountain range

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where man has made
attempts to build things

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and lost in the long run.

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Because no matter how
hard you try and build

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a road up this canyon,
the forces of nature

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are eventually going
to take it out.

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JOHN ROBINSON: Yeah, you can
look at it as a symbol of one

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that nature won.

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HUELL HOWSER: It stands there
in all its massive beauty

00:51:16.160 --> 00:51:20.270 align:middle line:84%
and grace, a bridge
completed over 50 years ago

00:51:20.270 --> 00:51:23.240 align:middle line:84%
and never used,
a man-made bridge

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in the middle of a wilderness,
a bridge that leads to nowhere.

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In the Angeles National Forest,
I'm Huell Howser for Videolog.

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Well here we are in Pomona
attending a birthday party.

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And it's being held
at the library.

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And it's complete with
all kinds of people.

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It's standing room only.

00:51:54.720 --> 00:51:56.070 align:middle line:90%
We have the cake.

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And the interesting thing
about this birthday party

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is it is being held for a
lady who's 100 years old.

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And she still looks
pretty good, doesn't she?

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SPEAKER 5: She looks very good.

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HUELL HOWSER: Well it's
not for you, it's for a--

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I didn't mean it
to sound like that.

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SPEAKER 5: [INAUDIBLE]
I understand.

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The lady is elegant.

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HUELL HOWSER: And indeed,
the lady is elegant.

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So elegant that hundreds
of Pomona residents

00:52:21.990 --> 00:52:25.260 align:middle line:84%
turned out for her party
just to get a look at her.

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You see, she's a real
celebrity, has her picture

00:52:28.260 --> 00:52:29.670 align:middle line:90%
all over the place--

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on the official city seal,
the Chamber of Commerce

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seal, and even on plates.

00:52:35.570 --> 00:52:37.230 align:middle line:84%
And in case you're
wondering just

00:52:37.230 --> 00:52:41.630 align:middle line:84%
who this lovely lady
is, here's the story.

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Pomona is located
right in the middle

00:52:43.810 --> 00:52:47.740 align:middle line:84%
of one of Southern California's
richest agricultural regions.

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And years ago it
was literally filled

00:52:49.870 --> 00:52:52.870 align:middle line:84%
with orchards, and
vineyards, and orange groves.

00:52:52.870 --> 00:52:55.000 align:middle line:84%
In fact, it was the
hub for shipping this

00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:57.280 align:middle line:90%
produce all over the country.

00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:00.280 align:middle line:84%
Over 100 years ago the
residents of this area

00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:03.070 align:middle line:84%
held a contest to
name their settlement.

00:53:03.070 --> 00:53:07.450 align:middle line:84%
And the name Pomona won,
Pomona being the Roman goddess

00:53:07.450 --> 00:53:08.800 align:middle line:90%
of fruit trees.

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What an appropriate
name for this area.

00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:14.260 align:middle line:84%
Now just after this
happened, Reverend C.F. Loop,

00:53:14.260 --> 00:53:18.700 align:middle line:84%
a Pomona resident, took his
family on a European vacation.

00:53:18.700 --> 00:53:22.060 align:middle line:84%
And while in Italy, he
saw a centuries-old statue

00:53:22.060 --> 00:53:23.530 align:middle line:90%
of the goddess Pomona.

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Well, he immediately
fell in love with it

00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.260 align:middle line:84%
and decided to have an exact
copy made and shipped back

00:53:29.260 --> 00:53:32.680 align:middle line:84%
to California as a gift
to the city of Pomona.

00:53:32.680 --> 00:53:34.990 align:middle line:84%
The marble statue of
the goddess Pomona

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arrived in the city of
Pomona June the 13th, 1889.

00:53:39.730 --> 00:53:44.050 align:middle line:84%
And she's been on display in
the city library ever since.

00:53:44.050 --> 00:53:46.030 align:middle line:84%
Now over these past
100 years, she's

00:53:46.030 --> 00:53:48.070 align:middle line:84%
moved around town
from time to time

00:53:48.070 --> 00:53:50.800 align:middle line:84%
as the library
location has changed.

00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:54.250 align:middle line:84%
And recently she underwent
a thorough cleaning.

00:53:54.250 --> 00:53:57.010 align:middle line:84%
Through it all, she's
become an honest to goodness

00:53:57.010 --> 00:53:58.480 align:middle line:90%
local fixture.

00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:01.780 align:middle line:84%
And she's won the hearts
of all who've seen her.

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GLORIA RICCI LOTHROP:
She's been here 100 years.

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First of all, a gift
of a private citizen

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who had a very
generous spirit who

00:54:09.970 --> 00:54:11.527 align:middle line:90%
donated the statue to the city.

00:54:11.527 --> 00:54:13.360 align:middle line:84%
And the city didn't
know what to do with it.

00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:16.600 align:middle line:84%
Here was this $1,000 statue
weighing 600 pounds that

00:54:16.600 --> 00:54:18.070 align:middle line:90%
had been shipped from Italy.

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And the only way
they could solve

00:54:19.510 --> 00:54:21.310 align:middle line:84%
the problem of
keeping it someplace

00:54:21.310 --> 00:54:24.610 align:middle line:84%
was to make an agreement with
the new library association.

00:54:24.610 --> 00:54:28.000 align:middle line:84%
If the library would house
the statue of Pomona,

00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:31.300 align:middle line:84%
the city would pay for
the light and the heat

00:54:31.300 --> 00:54:33.145 align:middle line:90%
to keep the library comfortable.

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HUELL HOWSER: Really?

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HALBERT WATSON: But the
goddess is such a symbol.

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And I realize that I get a lot
of respect in the community

00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:41.777 align:middle line:84%
just as the keeper
of the goddess.

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HUELL HOWSER: Really?

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HALBERT WATSON: Not
just as the librarian.

00:54:44.510 --> 00:54:46.421 align:middle line:90%
But he has the Goddess Pomona.

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HUELL HOWSER: So
you're probably one

00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:51.910 align:middle line:84%
of the few librarians in the
country who has this calling,

00:54:51.910 --> 00:54:56.050 align:middle line:84%
not only to keep the books,
but to keep the goddess.

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HALBERT WATSON: That's
right, the family heirloom.

00:54:58.180 --> 00:54:59.650 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Now ladies,
how many years have you

00:54:59.650 --> 00:55:01.300 align:middle line:90%
been looking at the goddess?

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SPEAKER 6: 50 years.

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HUELL HOWSER: 50?

00:55:02.710 --> 00:55:03.670 align:middle line:90%
SPEAKER 7: 50, 60 years

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HUELL HOWSER: Uh-huh.

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SPEAKER 8: And mine's
about 62 years.

00:55:07.420 --> 00:55:09.910 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Do you still
see new and wonderful things

00:55:09.910 --> 00:55:11.689 align:middle line:84%
about her every time
you look at her?

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SPEAKER 8: Oh, yes.

00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:15.224 align:middle line:84%
It's just terrific, the
beauty of the goddess.

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SPEAKER 7: I used to always drag
that foot when I was about, oh,

00:55:17.890 --> 00:55:22.030 align:middle line:84%
eight years old, when I'd come
in, go by her in the library.

00:55:22.030 --> 00:55:24.287 align:middle line:84%
And I would always have
to hit that foot of hers.

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HUELL HOWSER: Why
would you grab her--

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SPEAKER 7: Because I
wanted to touch her.

00:55:27.550 --> 00:55:28.740 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Uh-huh,
well now that's

00:55:28.740 --> 00:55:31.050 align:middle line:84%
why they've got her in a
case now, to protect her

00:55:31.050 --> 00:55:32.530 align:middle line:90%
against people like you.

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SPEAKER 7: But when she
was in the old library,

00:55:34.570 --> 00:55:35.950 align:middle line:90%
she just stood out.

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And you could just touch
her all you wanted to.

00:55:38.130 --> 00:55:39.612 align:middle line:90%
But I liked her foot.

00:55:39.612 --> 00:55:41.320 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: Now I
saw you all over here

00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:42.746 align:middle line:90%
looking at the goddess.

00:55:42.746 --> 00:55:43.870 align:middle line:90%
What were your pointing at?

00:55:43.870 --> 00:55:44.860 align:middle line:90%
What were you looking at?

00:55:44.860 --> 00:55:46.068 align:middle line:90%
What intrigued you about her?

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SPEAKER 9: Because she has
sandals that are not a pair.

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HUELL HOWSER: Well
now wait a minute.

00:55:50.860 --> 00:55:53.485 align:middle line:84%
What do you mean her
sandals are you not a pair?

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SPEAKER 9: They're different.

00:55:53.980 --> 00:55:54.260 align:middle line:90%
They're not.

00:55:54.260 --> 00:55:54.610 align:middle line:90%
They're different.

00:55:54.610 --> 00:55:55.609 align:middle line:90%
SPEAKER 10: They're not.

00:55:55.609 --> 00:55:57.130 align:middle line:90%
The sandals are different.

00:55:57.130 --> 00:55:58.840 align:middle line:84%
They don't show up
as different now

00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.060 align:middle line:84%
as they used to when
they were dirtier because

00:56:01.060 --> 00:56:02.660 align:middle line:90%
of the dark lines, you see.

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HUELL HOWSER: So she's
wearing an un-matched pair.

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SPEAKER 9: Nobody knows, nobody
knows how it ever happened.

00:56:08.590 --> 00:56:11.800 align:middle line:84%
HUELL HOWSER: One of
the little known facts

00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:16.030 align:middle line:84%
about the goddess Pomona,
whose sandals don't match.

00:56:16.030 --> 00:56:18.852 align:middle line:84%
Now is she a
full-fledged goddess?

00:56:18.852 --> 00:56:20.560 align:middle line:84%
Because a lot of people
say they've never

00:56:20.560 --> 00:56:22.210 align:middle line:90%
heard of the goddess Pomona.

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GLORIA RICCI LOTHROP: No,
there are hierarchies.

00:56:24.210 --> 00:56:25.390 align:middle line:90%
She really was a wood nymph.

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HUELL HOWSER: A wood nymph.

00:56:26.230 --> 00:56:28.063 align:middle line:84%
GLORIA RICCI LOTHROP:
A wood nymph, exactly.

00:56:28.063 --> 00:56:29.380 align:middle line:90%
And she was a guardian.

00:56:29.380 --> 00:56:31.030 align:middle line:84%
Most accounts,
classical accounts,

00:56:31.030 --> 00:56:33.580 align:middle line:84%
refer to her as a guardian
as opposed to a goddess.

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So she was a lesser goddess.

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HUELL HOWSER: But she guarded
the orchards, and the fruits,

00:56:38.080 --> 00:56:39.360 align:middle line:90%
and things like that.

00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:40.943 align:middle line:84%
GLORIA RICCI LOTHROP:
She guarded them

00:56:40.943 --> 00:56:43.120 align:middle line:84%
and also, remember,
she had a pruning

00:56:43.120 --> 00:56:44.980 align:middle line:90%
hook instead of the javelin.

00:56:44.980 --> 00:56:46.670 align:middle line:90%
And so she often grafted.

00:56:46.670 --> 00:56:48.220 align:middle line:90%
She made hybrids.

00:56:48.220 --> 00:56:50.470 align:middle line:84%
She watered the plants,
she gathered them.

00:56:50.470 --> 00:56:51.830 align:middle line:90%
She loved plants.

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In fact, [INAUDIBLE] loved
the plants more than the men.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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HUELL HOWSER: You
know, times change.

00:57:23.830 --> 00:57:28.480 align:middle line:84%
And the community Pomona, which
was once a major citrus center,

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is now a bustling city.

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And just about the
only citrus groves

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left are the ones on the
campus of Cal Poly Pomona.

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But some things are the same.

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The goddess Pomona
still stands watch.

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A 100-year-old lady
who's still very elegant.

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In Pomona with the goddess,
I'm Huell Howser for Videolog.

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