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Scheklo ?] 00:01:48.730 --> 00:01:50.940 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Are you the mayor, or are you-- 00:01:50.940 --> 00:01:52.523 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] I'm the president. 00:01:52.523 --> 00:01:53.400 align:middle line:90% [CHUCKLING] 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:54.795 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: And this is-- 00:01:54.795 --> 00:01:55.920 align:middle line:90% [? JENNA SCHEKLO: ?] Jenna. 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:56.790 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: This is your daughter. 00:01:56.790 --> 00:01:57.300 align:middle line:90% JACK SCHEKLO: That's right. 00:01:57.300 --> 00:01:58.430 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: And your wife. 00:01:58.430 --> 00:01:59.130 align:middle line:90% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] Linda. 00:01:59.130 --> 00:02:00.110 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Nice to meet you. 00:02:00.110 --> 00:02:02.527 align:middle line:84% And you're getting ready to drive your daughter to school. 00:02:02.527 --> 00:02:03.943 align:middle line:84% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] That's right. 00:02:03.943 --> 00:02:05.820 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: How far away is the school that 00:02:05.820 --> 00:02:07.500 align:middle line:90% services Snow Creek? 00:02:07.500 --> 00:02:09.914 align:middle line:84% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] Well, about 20 minutes. 00:02:09.914 --> 00:02:11.580 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So there's no school here. 00:02:11.580 --> 00:02:12.170 align:middle line:84% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] That's right. 00:02:12.170 --> 00:02:13.570 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: There's no store here. 00:02:13.570 --> 00:02:15.270 align:middle line:84% There's nothing here, just little houses. 00:02:15.270 --> 00:02:15.850 align:middle line:84% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] That's right. 00:02:15.850 --> 00:02:17.070 align:middle line:90% It's just a quiet village. 00:02:17.070 --> 00:02:18.540 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: And that's the way you like it. 00:02:18.540 --> 00:02:20.498 align:middle line:84% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] That's the way we like it. 00:02:20.498 --> 00:02:24.990 align:middle line:84% And here also is one of the community historians. 00:02:24.990 --> 00:02:26.760 align:middle line:90% Introduce yourself to everybody. 00:02:26.760 --> 00:02:27.930 align:middle line:90% LES STARKS: I'm Les Starks. 00:02:27.930 --> 00:02:29.850 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: And you have lived here-- 00:02:29.850 --> 00:02:31.060 align:middle line:90% LES STARKS: About a year. 00:02:31.060 --> 00:02:32.882 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So you're kind of a newcomer. 00:02:32.882 --> 00:02:34.590 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Well I've owned property here 00:02:34.590 --> 00:02:36.780 align:middle line:90% for about seven years. 00:02:36.780 --> 00:02:38.555 align:middle line:84% So I've been coming here for a long time. 00:02:38.555 --> 00:02:39.930 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Lots of people have 00:02:39.930 --> 00:02:41.910 align:middle line:90% been coming here a long time. 00:02:41.910 --> 00:02:44.880 align:middle line:84% LINDA SCHEKLO: We have a lot of longtime residents, 00:02:44.880 --> 00:02:48.330 align:middle line:84% you know, second generations, people 00:02:48.330 --> 00:02:51.860 align:middle line:84% that have been here since it was dirt roads. 00:02:51.860 --> 00:02:56.250 align:middle line:84% You know, so we have weekenders that own homes here. 00:02:56.250 --> 00:03:00.630 align:middle line:84% But that we have about 20 full-time, year-round 00:03:00.630 --> 00:03:01.200 align:middle line:90% residents. 00:03:01.200 --> 00:03:01.950 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Wow. 00:03:01.950 --> 00:03:03.750 align:middle line:84% Well, it's kind of quiet this morning. 00:03:03.750 --> 00:03:06.650 align:middle line:84% You all are the only people we've seen so far. 00:03:06.650 --> 00:03:08.484 align:middle line:84% Are people sleeping in, or just being quiet? 00:03:08.484 --> 00:03:10.108 align:middle line:84% JACK SCHEKLO: Well, we're going to have 00:03:10.108 --> 00:03:12.300 align:middle line:84% to put the traffic report on KFI in the sky, 00:03:12.300 --> 00:03:14.610 align:middle line:84% and let us know which roads are open. 00:03:14.610 --> 00:03:16.110 align:middle line:84% You know, we don't want to get stuck 00:03:16.110 --> 00:03:18.400 align:middle line:84% in traffic on the way for our hike this morning. 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:20.790 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, here's the drill here. 00:03:20.790 --> 00:03:22.500 align:middle line:84% We're going to meet up with you later 00:03:22.500 --> 00:03:25.260 align:middle line:84% on in the day, after you've returned from taking 00:03:25.260 --> 00:03:27.180 align:middle line:90% your daughter to school. 00:03:27.180 --> 00:03:30.510 align:middle line:84% We are going to do this in chronological order, 00:03:30.510 --> 00:03:32.190 align:middle line:90% because people have-- 00:03:32.190 --> 00:03:36.060 align:middle line:84% these homes, the part of Snow Creek that we see today, 00:03:36.060 --> 00:03:39.480 align:middle line:84% have been here for almost 100 years, a lot of them. 00:03:39.480 --> 00:03:42.690 align:middle line:84% But Snow Creek has been inhabited much longer 00:03:42.690 --> 00:03:43.330 align:middle line:90% than that. 00:03:43.330 --> 00:03:46.830 align:middle line:84% So we're going to take this in chronological order. 00:03:46.830 --> 00:03:49.270 align:middle line:84% Point out to everyone where we're going first, 00:03:49.270 --> 00:03:52.260 align:middle line:84% because it's a beautiful journey we're getting ready to go on. 00:03:52.260 --> 00:03:52.860 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Great, yeah. 00:03:52.860 --> 00:03:53.970 align:middle line:90% I'm looking forward to it. 00:03:53.970 --> 00:03:55.550 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Show everybody where we're going. 00:03:55.550 --> 00:03:56.350 align:middle line:90% Point over there. 00:03:56.350 --> 00:03:57.630 align:middle line:84% That's what I want people to say. 00:03:57.630 --> 00:03:59.171 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That is the North 00:03:59.171 --> 00:04:04.097 align:middle line:90% Face of San Jacinto Mountain. 00:04:04.097 --> 00:04:06.180 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: We're not going all the way up there 00:04:06.180 --> 00:04:07.320 align:middle line:90% in the snow. 00:04:07.320 --> 00:04:09.900 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Not unless we have a couple of days. 00:04:09.900 --> 00:04:12.000 align:middle line:84% We're going to go just to the foothills there. 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:15.780 align:middle line:84% But that is the migratory route-- 00:04:15.780 --> 00:04:18.029 align:middle line:84% one of the migratory routes of the Indians 00:04:18.029 --> 00:04:20.850 align:middle line:84% that used to go into the mountains 00:04:20.850 --> 00:04:22.680 align:middle line:84% during the hot part of the year, and follow 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:24.270 align:middle line:84% the game, and the different plants 00:04:24.270 --> 00:04:27.690 align:middle line:84% that they used, and would come down here in the winter, 00:04:27.690 --> 00:04:31.030 align:middle line:90% and collect seeds and so forth. 00:04:31.030 --> 00:04:33.654 align:middle line:84% And we're going to travel on the path that they traveled on. 00:04:33.654 --> 00:04:35.070 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: And see some amazing 00:04:35.070 --> 00:04:36.940 align:middle line:84% places that you're going to take us to. 00:04:36.940 --> 00:04:37.940 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yes. 00:04:37.940 --> 00:04:41.970 align:middle line:84% Now you told us to wear long pants because we 00:04:41.970 --> 00:04:45.182 align:middle line:90% were going to be in stickly-- 00:04:45.182 --> 00:04:46.890 align:middle line:84% there were going to be bushes and things. 00:04:46.890 --> 00:04:47.550 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Right. 00:04:47.550 --> 00:04:49.133 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: You, on the other hand-- 00:04:49.133 --> 00:04:50.770 align:middle line:90% [LINDA LAUGHING] 00:04:50.770 --> 00:04:52.680 align:middle line:90% He's still barefooted. 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:55.980 align:middle line:84% I had been told ahead of time that this man never 00:04:55.980 --> 00:04:57.390 align:middle line:90% wears shoes. 00:04:57.390 --> 00:04:58.806 align:middle line:84% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] That's right. 00:04:58.806 --> 00:04:59.906 align:middle line:90% He's called Rhino Foot. 00:04:59.906 --> 00:05:02.280 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So you're going to go without any shoes on. 00:05:02.280 --> 00:05:02.850 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, because I 00:05:02.850 --> 00:05:05.881 align:middle line:84% want you to see the real blood that comes from these plants. 00:05:05.881 --> 00:05:08.130 align:middle line:84% And otherwise, if you wear pants, you'll never see it. 00:05:08.130 --> 00:05:10.660 align:middle line:84% So this is going to show you what they do to the legs. 00:05:10.660 --> 00:05:10.890 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: All right. 00:05:10.890 --> 00:05:11.910 align:middle line:90% We're the city boys. 00:05:11.910 --> 00:05:14.280 align:middle line:84% You're the hardcore Snow Creek guy. 00:05:14.280 --> 00:05:16.560 align:middle line:84% And we're going to take off and go on the tour. 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:17.340 align:middle line:90% Nice to meet you. 00:05:17.340 --> 00:05:18.670 align:middle line:90% Have a good day in school. 00:05:18.670 --> 00:05:19.610 align:middle line:90% We'll see you later. 00:05:19.610 --> 00:05:20.120 align:middle line:90% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] OK. 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:20.700 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Come on, Les. 00:05:20.700 --> 00:05:22.260 align:middle line:84% We're all going to head down the road. 00:05:22.260 --> 00:05:23.468 align:middle line:90% [? JENNA SCHEKLO: ?] OK, bye. 00:05:23.468 --> 00:05:25.440 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: It's paved right here. 00:05:25.440 --> 00:05:27.780 align:middle line:84% Very quickly, it's going to get unpaved, right? 00:05:27.780 --> 00:05:28.832 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yes. 00:05:28.832 --> 00:05:30.540 align:middle line:84% We're going to walk right on up the road. 00:05:30.540 --> 00:05:31.510 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Let's go. 00:05:31.510 --> 00:05:32.360 align:middle line:90% We're starting. 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:34.564 align:middle line:90% Do we need to take water? 00:05:34.564 --> 00:05:36.480 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That might be a good idea. 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:37.791 align:middle line:90% We'll get water on the way up. 00:05:37.791 --> 00:05:39.290 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: From a natural spring. 00:05:39.290 --> 00:05:41.331 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Not so natural, but a spring. 00:05:41.331 --> 00:05:43.262 align:middle line:90% 00:05:43.262 --> 00:05:45.470 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Now what's interesting about what we're 00:05:45.470 --> 00:05:48.740 align:middle line:84% getting ready to see today, Les, is that this is really 00:05:48.740 --> 00:05:50.270 align:middle line:90% kind of off-limits, isn't it? 00:05:50.270 --> 00:05:52.640 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Yeah, this is a 100% off-limits. 00:05:52.640 --> 00:05:54.740 align:middle line:90% We just get to come here today. 00:05:54.740 --> 00:05:56.345 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: On a special-- 00:05:56.345 --> 00:05:58.060 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: This is a special visit. 00:05:58.060 --> 00:06:01.520 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: --a dispensation that we have received to-- 00:06:01.520 --> 00:06:04.552 align:middle line:84% so not many people even walk up this road. 00:06:04.552 --> 00:06:05.510 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] No. 00:06:05.510 --> 00:06:08.840 align:middle line:84% This is what makes it so fragile and so beautiful 00:06:08.840 --> 00:06:11.930 align:middle line:90% up here is that there are no-- 00:06:11.930 --> 00:06:13.860 align:middle line:84% the public is not allowed up here, 00:06:13.860 --> 00:06:17.960 align:middle line:84% and that's what makes it look like this and feel like. 00:06:17.960 --> 00:06:20.570 align:middle line:84% It's very isolated and primitive, 00:06:20.570 --> 00:06:21.710 align:middle line:90% like it's always been. 00:06:21.710 --> 00:06:24.650 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Look at this shot out here. 00:06:24.650 --> 00:06:28.910 align:middle line:84% This really does look exactly like it would have 00:06:28.910 --> 00:06:31.795 align:middle line:90% looked thousands of years ago. 00:06:31.795 --> 00:06:33.170 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's right. 00:06:33.170 --> 00:06:36.110 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: This is the place where the road ends 00:06:36.110 --> 00:06:39.790 align:middle line:84% and the path begins, between these rocks right here. 00:06:39.790 --> 00:06:42.890 align:middle line:84% For years-- actually it was between these rocks, 00:06:42.890 --> 00:06:46.220 align:middle line:84% where the road narrows here, where the path narrows. 00:06:46.220 --> 00:06:49.940 align:middle line:84% There was a fat, old rattlesnake that lived here for years, 00:06:49.940 --> 00:06:52.330 align:middle line:84% and anyone who tried to cross this path, 00:06:52.330 --> 00:06:54.395 align:middle line:84% he would come right out here and-- 00:06:54.395 --> 00:06:55.770 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's right. 00:06:55.770 --> 00:06:56.561 align:middle line:90% I can attest to it. 00:06:56.561 --> 00:06:57.170 align:middle line:90% I've seen him. 00:06:57.170 --> 00:06:58.950 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: He's the sentinel of the path. 00:06:58.950 --> 00:07:01.366 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] I had a dog come up here once with me, 00:07:01.366 --> 00:07:03.290 align:middle line:84% and stick its nose right on that rattlesnake. 00:07:03.290 --> 00:07:06.440 align:middle line:84% And the rattlesnake just went ballistic. 00:07:06.440 --> 00:07:09.650 align:middle line:84% Was going-- we threw sticks on it, we threw rocks on it, 00:07:09.650 --> 00:07:11.030 align:middle line:90% we threw sand on it. 00:07:11.030 --> 00:07:13.332 align:middle line:84% He wouldn't move, and we turned around and went home, 00:07:13.332 --> 00:07:14.540 align:middle line:90% and said this place is yours. 00:07:14.540 --> 00:07:15.440 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Where is this rattlesnake now? 00:07:15.440 --> 00:07:17.170 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: We haven't seen him for about a year and a half. 00:07:17.170 --> 00:07:18.110 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Is he around here somewhere? 00:07:18.110 --> 00:07:19.182 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Let me see. 00:07:19.182 --> 00:07:20.126 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: So we hope he's not here. 00:07:20.126 --> 00:07:20.970 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] I don't see anything. 00:07:20.970 --> 00:07:21.930 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Because he'll scare you. 00:07:21.930 --> 00:07:24.013 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Would you hear him if he was around? 00:07:24.013 --> 00:07:26.060 align:middle line:90% LES STARKS: Oh, you'd hear him. 00:07:26.060 --> 00:07:28.130 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Good grief. 00:07:28.130 --> 00:07:31.130 align:middle line:84% Our first adventure of the day, walking 00:07:31.130 --> 00:07:32.660 align:middle line:90% through rattlesnake country. 00:07:32.660 --> 00:07:35.510 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: In about three weeks or a month, 00:07:35.510 --> 00:07:38.540 align:middle line:84% that's when it's really rattlesnake time here. 00:07:38.540 --> 00:07:41.210 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Boy, look how this path just suddenly 00:07:41.210 --> 00:07:43.780 align:middle line:90% really narrows down. 00:07:43.780 --> 00:07:46.180 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Yeah, but it's still a pretty easy path, 00:07:46.180 --> 00:07:49.050 align:middle line:84% even though we've got to gain a little elevation. 00:07:49.050 --> 00:07:50.660 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Now would this have 00:07:50.660 --> 00:07:53.570 align:middle line:84% been the path that Native Americans would have used? 00:07:53.570 --> 00:07:57.380 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] It very well may be. 00:07:57.380 --> 00:08:03.650 align:middle line:84% I'm not absolutely positive, but the path of least resistance 00:08:03.650 --> 00:08:05.720 align:middle line:84% is the one that primitive people follow, 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.720 align:middle line:84% because they have to do it as a way of life. 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:11.240 align:middle line:90% So it's usually the easiest way. 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:15.260 align:middle line:84% And this looks like the easiest line through this area. 00:08:15.260 --> 00:08:18.290 align:middle line:90% 00:08:18.290 --> 00:08:22.379 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Boy, this is beautiful. 00:08:22.379 --> 00:08:23.420 align:middle line:90% You all are used to this. 00:08:23.420 --> 00:08:25.652 align:middle line:84% Let me just stop look at this for a minute. 00:08:25.652 --> 00:08:27.110 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Take it all in. 00:08:27.110 --> 00:08:28.943 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Do you ever get tired of this? 00:08:28.943 --> 00:08:31.070 align:middle line:84% JACK SCHEKLO: Never-- never get tired of it. 00:08:31.070 --> 00:08:34.100 align:middle line:90% 00:08:34.100 --> 00:08:37.070 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Boy, this is what the desert 00:08:37.070 --> 00:08:38.984 align:middle line:90% is supposed to look like. 00:08:38.984 --> 00:08:41.150 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, well a lot of the desert-- 00:08:41.150 --> 00:08:43.100 align:middle line:84% I grew up here, and a lot of the desert, 00:08:43.100 --> 00:08:47.870 align:middle line:84% all over the Palm Springs area, used to look like this. 00:08:47.870 --> 00:08:51.800 align:middle line:84% And I've watched it go, bit by bit. 00:08:51.800 --> 00:08:57.160 align:middle line:84% This is the last little piece that's left undisturbed. 00:08:57.160 --> 00:08:58.940 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Aren't your feet-- 00:08:58.940 --> 00:09:01.424 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Oh, no, I'm just-- 00:09:01.424 --> 00:09:03.340 align:middle line:84% (WITH EUROPEAN ACCENT) It's a wonderful thing, 00:09:03.340 --> 00:09:05.370 align:middle line:84% believe me, to walk without shoes. 00:09:05.370 --> 00:09:06.310 align:middle line:90% [HUELL CHUCKLING] 00:09:06.310 --> 00:09:08.845 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: The bottom of your feet must be like leather. 00:09:08.845 --> 00:09:10.220 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] I can step on 00:09:10.220 --> 00:09:11.740 align:middle line:90% cactus, and I just brush it off. 00:09:11.740 --> 00:09:12.040 align:middle line:90% It doesn't go in. 00:09:12.040 --> 00:09:12.490 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Really? 00:09:12.490 --> 00:09:13.531 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah. 00:09:13.531 --> 00:09:16.570 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: How long have you gone without shoes? 00:09:16.570 --> 00:09:18.130 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Well, I've been 00:09:18.130 --> 00:09:22.210 align:middle line:84% hiking without shoes for about 11 years up here. 00:09:22.210 --> 00:09:26.050 align:middle line:84% I kind of got into it up here taking hikes, 00:09:26.050 --> 00:09:31.090 align:middle line:84% because you're just so much more stealth without shoes. 00:09:31.090 --> 00:09:33.730 align:middle line:84% You can see things that when you're walking with shoes 00:09:33.730 --> 00:09:37.420 align:middle line:84% you'll never see, because the animals can hear you. 00:09:37.420 --> 00:09:40.720 align:middle line:84% But when I walk without shoes on, there's no sounds. 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:42.910 align:middle line:84% You don't hear crunching or crackling. 00:09:42.910 --> 00:09:45.790 align:middle line:84% And so I started doing it, and my feet 00:09:45.790 --> 00:09:47.290 align:middle line:84% got tougher and tougher, and I said, 00:09:47.290 --> 00:09:48.510 align:middle line:90% hell, I'll just keep doing it. 00:09:48.510 --> 00:09:49.120 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well that's the way 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:50.890 align:middle line:90% the Native Americans did it. 00:09:50.890 --> 00:09:53.125 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah they did. 00:09:53.125 --> 00:09:55.000 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: But didn't they wear moccasins? 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:58.570 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Some of them did for 00:09:58.570 --> 00:10:00.850 align:middle line:90% climbing on rock and stuff. 00:10:00.850 --> 00:10:04.630 align:middle line:84% I think they did-- and for protection from the cold. 00:10:04.630 --> 00:10:09.910 align:middle line:84% So I don't think it's the most practical thing in the world, 00:10:09.910 --> 00:10:10.610 align:middle line:90% but-- 00:10:10.610 --> 00:10:13.380 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Oh, we found a little opening right here. 00:10:13.380 --> 00:10:15.670 align:middle line:90% Let's just stand up here and-- 00:10:15.670 --> 00:10:20.590 align:middle line:84% oh boy, look at this view from the top of this little crest 00:10:20.590 --> 00:10:21.670 align:middle line:90% right here. 00:10:21.670 --> 00:10:25.630 align:middle line:84% This really gives you a wonderful panorama. 00:10:25.630 --> 00:10:26.621 align:middle line:90% Man. 00:10:26.621 --> 00:10:28.870 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's one of the last undisturbed 00:10:28.870 --> 00:10:34.420 align:middle line:84% savannas in Southern California right there. 00:10:34.420 --> 00:10:37.540 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Now here is a big bunch of barbed wire. 00:10:37.540 --> 00:10:39.075 align:middle line:90% How did that get here? 00:10:39.075 --> 00:10:40.450 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Well, that is 00:10:40.450 --> 00:10:45.390 align:middle line:84% a reminder of some other people that lived here in this area. 00:10:45.390 --> 00:10:47.710 align:middle line:84% And that was some Sicilian shepherds 00:10:47.710 --> 00:10:50.530 align:middle line:90% who came here in the 1920s. 00:10:50.530 --> 00:10:53.860 align:middle line:84% They leased the land, they brought their sheep and goats 00:10:53.860 --> 00:10:57.850 align:middle line:84% up here, and they brought a lot of olive trees, which are still 00:10:57.850 --> 00:11:00.310 align:middle line:84% down in our village, and they kept their sheep up here. 00:11:00.310 --> 00:11:02.329 align:middle line:84% And this barbed wire is how they penned them in. 00:11:02.329 --> 00:11:02.870 align:middle line:90% And there's-- 00:11:02.870 --> 00:11:03.994 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Look at this. 00:11:03.994 --> 00:11:05.390 align:middle line:90% There's a lot of it left. 00:11:05.390 --> 00:11:07.450 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, all over. 00:11:07.450 --> 00:11:10.480 align:middle line:84% They came here and their olive crops, I believe, 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.730 align:middle line:84% were not successful because of the wind. 00:11:13.730 --> 00:11:15.160 align:middle line:90% And so they finally-- 00:11:15.160 --> 00:11:18.400 align:middle line:84% it wasn't profitable for them to stay here, and they left. 00:11:18.400 --> 00:11:20.930 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, the sheep are gone, 00:11:20.930 --> 00:11:21.930 align:middle line:90% the Sicilians are gone-- 00:11:21.930 --> 00:11:24.180 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] And the barbed wire is still here. 00:11:24.180 --> 00:11:26.440 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: The barbed wire is still here. 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:30.675 align:middle line:90% Look at the size of these rocks. 00:11:30.675 --> 00:11:32.050 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, they're 00:11:32.050 --> 00:11:33.970 align:middle line:84% a mere fraction of the size they were 00:11:33.970 --> 00:11:37.270 align:middle line:84% when they fell 10,000, 12,000 feet, 00:11:37.270 --> 00:11:42.329 align:middle line:84% and broke apart in this dynamic way. 00:11:42.329 --> 00:11:44.620 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So they fell off the top of the mountain. 00:11:44.620 --> 00:11:46.036 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] From the core, 00:11:46.036 --> 00:11:49.040 align:middle line:84% when there was a big upsurge in ancient times. 00:11:49.040 --> 00:11:53.061 align:middle line:84% And that's how they broke, with these unusual and dynamic 00:11:53.061 --> 00:11:53.560 align:middle line:90% shapes. 00:11:53.560 --> 00:11:54.550 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Look at this thing up here. 00:11:54.550 --> 00:11:56.980 align:middle line:84% Now that looks like it could still come down. 00:11:56.980 --> 00:11:58.021 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah. 00:11:58.021 --> 00:12:00.280 align:middle line:90% I've never seen a rock fall. 00:12:00.280 --> 00:12:02.502 align:middle line:84% I've been here 11 years, and I've never seen a rock. 00:12:02.502 --> 00:12:04.710 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, I don't want to see one fall now. 00:12:04.710 --> 00:12:09.820 align:middle line:84% Les, what is all this grid work here for? 00:12:09.820 --> 00:12:13.270 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: This is thought to be an ancient Indian shaman's 00:12:13.270 --> 00:12:14.320 align:middle line:90% cave. 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:16.960 align:middle line:84% And this grid work was put here so 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.230 align:middle line:84% that the interior of this ancient site 00:12:20.230 --> 00:12:22.390 align:middle line:90% wouldn't be defaced. 00:12:22.390 --> 00:12:31.150 align:middle line:84% And the red marks that you see on the stone in the back are, 00:12:31.150 --> 00:12:33.790 align:middle line:84% I suppose, made out of iron oxide. 00:12:33.790 --> 00:12:38.020 align:middle line:84% And according to what several people have written, 00:12:38.020 --> 00:12:41.230 align:middle line:84% these points indicate the points of light 00:12:41.230 --> 00:12:45.690 align:middle line:84% that came into the cave that indicated to the early Indians 00:12:45.690 --> 00:12:49.330 align:middle line:84% the days that they should start planting certain crops. 00:12:49.330 --> 00:12:51.802 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Now do you think they lived back in here? 00:12:51.802 --> 00:12:53.260 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] I'm sure of it. 00:12:53.260 --> 00:12:54.910 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Really? 00:12:54.910 --> 00:12:57.460 align:middle line:90% And look at the way it's-- 00:12:57.460 --> 00:12:58.240 align:middle line:90% what is this? 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:01.150 align:middle line:84% Is this just a natural big slice, the way 00:13:01.150 --> 00:13:02.620 align:middle line:90% it's just come apart? 00:13:02.620 --> 00:13:05.500 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's the elephant's trunk, Huell. 00:13:05.500 --> 00:13:06.820 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Oh, the elephant. 00:13:06.820 --> 00:13:07.490 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's right. 00:13:07.490 --> 00:13:08.590 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Where is the elephant? 00:13:08.590 --> 00:13:10.334 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] I'll show you. 00:13:10.334 --> 00:13:12.250 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: I thought the elephant was here. 00:13:12.250 --> 00:13:14.830 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] No, I'll show you the elephant. 00:13:14.830 --> 00:13:18.610 align:middle line:84% He lives over here on the other side. 00:13:18.610 --> 00:13:21.630 align:middle line:90% 00:13:21.630 --> 00:13:23.340 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Wow, this is-- 00:13:23.340 --> 00:13:25.410 align:middle line:84% I didn't know we were going on such an adventure. 00:13:25.410 --> 00:13:30.682 align:middle line:84% This is-- I don't see an elephant. 00:13:30.682 --> 00:13:33.140 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Well, come on up here a little farther, 00:13:33.140 --> 00:13:33.889 align:middle line:90% and I'll show you. 00:13:33.889 --> 00:13:41.900 align:middle line:90% 00:13:41.900 --> 00:13:43.354 align:middle line:90% There he is. 00:13:43.354 --> 00:13:44.560 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Ha. 00:13:44.560 --> 00:13:46.690 align:middle line:90% You're right. 00:13:46.690 --> 00:13:51.406 align:middle line:90% Now who saw this first? 00:13:51.406 --> 00:13:52.780 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] I don't know. 00:13:52.780 --> 00:13:54.370 align:middle line:90% But it is so obvious. 00:13:54.370 --> 00:13:56.470 align:middle line:84% I'm sure the Indians would have not known 00:13:56.470 --> 00:14:00.550 align:middle line:84% what an elephant looked like, so it was meaningless to them. 00:14:00.550 --> 00:14:03.040 align:middle line:84% But you can even see part way up on the rock 00:14:03.040 --> 00:14:07.520 align:middle line:84% where an ancient mud and pitch roof was set into this corner, 00:14:07.520 --> 00:14:09.730 align:middle line:84% and people lived in this area as well, 00:14:09.730 --> 00:14:11.140 align:middle line:90% right under the elephant's ear. 00:14:11.140 --> 00:14:12.440 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, it would have been cool. 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:13.731 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Absolutely. 00:14:13.731 --> 00:14:15.580 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Water nearby. 00:14:15.580 --> 00:14:16.885 align:middle line:90% Wow, an elephant-- 00:14:16.885 --> 00:14:18.760 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, isn't that amazing? 00:14:18.760 --> 00:14:21.160 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: --in the desert. 00:14:21.160 --> 00:14:22.900 align:middle line:90% How many people know about this? 00:14:22.900 --> 00:14:24.400 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Not too many. 00:14:24.400 --> 00:14:27.440 align:middle line:90% Not too many. 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:34.270 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: OK, now Jack and Les have brought us into a-- 00:14:34.270 --> 00:14:43.134 align:middle line:90% wait a minute, where are we? 00:14:43.134 --> 00:14:45.550 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] We're right in the belly of the beast. 00:14:45.550 --> 00:14:47.400 align:middle line:90% We're right in the rocks here. 00:14:47.400 --> 00:14:51.460 align:middle line:84% I'm sure that this was the place where 00:14:51.460 --> 00:14:56.230 align:middle line:84% the Indians, and miners, and people from all different times 00:14:56.230 --> 00:14:59.320 align:middle line:84% came here for the shelter in this, to cook their food, 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:01.855 align:middle line:84% and be sheltered from the wind, and shaded. 00:15:01.855 --> 00:15:04.210 align:middle line:84% And it's just a initial formation 00:15:04.210 --> 00:15:07.990 align:middle line:84% of these crushed rocks that have split in this way. 00:15:07.990 --> 00:15:12.224 align:middle line:84% In fact, this almost looks like the bow of a ship right here, 00:15:12.224 --> 00:15:14.629 align:middle line:90% doesn't it? 00:15:14.629 --> 00:15:17.740 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Ah, yeah. 00:15:17.740 --> 00:15:21.160 align:middle line:84% JACK SCHEKLO: This goes to show you the force that they fell 00:15:21.160 --> 00:15:22.450 align:middle line:90% and split open. 00:15:22.450 --> 00:15:25.800 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Les, how many people know about this place. 00:15:25.800 --> 00:15:27.320 align:middle line:90% LES STARKS: Oh, not too many. 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:30.730 align:middle line:84% That's why it's still here, and you don't see any graffiti 00:15:30.730 --> 00:15:32.500 align:middle line:90% on the walls or anything. 00:15:32.500 --> 00:15:34.730 align:middle line:84% And if you look up, you can see plants 00:15:34.730 --> 00:15:37.510 align:middle line:84% that are growing pretty much right out of the rock. 00:15:37.510 --> 00:15:41.220 align:middle line:84% These plants are brittlebush that you saw down below, 00:15:41.220 --> 00:15:42.450 align:middle line:90% with the yellow flowers. 00:15:42.450 --> 00:15:44.825 align:middle line:84% Well, look, they've lodged themselves right in the rocks, 00:15:44.825 --> 00:15:45.776 align:middle line:90% and they're growing. 00:15:45.776 --> 00:15:46.900 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Look at this. 00:15:46.900 --> 00:15:49.630 align:middle line:84% Well, you would never know this was even back here, 00:15:49.630 --> 00:15:55.450 align:middle line:84% because you have to come through this tiny, tiny little opening. 00:15:55.450 --> 00:16:01.720 align:middle line:84% I mean there is hardly room to get through here. 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:06.250 align:middle line:84% But once you do get through here, there's a hole. 00:16:06.250 --> 00:16:08.260 align:middle line:84% It's like a little house, a little room. 00:16:08.260 --> 00:16:10.510 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] It has it's own atmosphere inside. 00:16:10.510 --> 00:16:12.740 align:middle line:84% It's always cool here, even in the hottest-- 00:16:12.740 --> 00:16:14.698 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Even in the hottest days of summer, 00:16:14.698 --> 00:16:17.160 align:middle line:84% you can come here and it's perfectly cool. 00:16:17.160 --> 00:16:20.770 align:middle line:84% And sometimes there's a nice breeze that blows through here. 00:16:20.770 --> 00:16:23.170 align:middle line:84% It's a wonderful place to be, really. 00:16:23.170 --> 00:16:26.110 align:middle line:84% This is just one example of the peace, and the beauty, 00:16:26.110 --> 00:16:29.770 align:middle line:90% and the serenity of Snow Creek. 00:16:29.770 --> 00:16:31.630 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Now we have left the rock, 00:16:31.630 --> 00:16:34.150 align:middle line:84% with its elephant, and its secret caves, 00:16:34.150 --> 00:16:38.380 align:middle line:84% and its Indian paintings, and all its other mysteries. 00:16:38.380 --> 00:16:41.830 align:middle line:84% And Les has brought us to a place you particularly 00:16:41.830 --> 00:16:43.090 align:middle line:90% wanted us to see, Les. 00:16:43.090 --> 00:16:45.490 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Well, this is proof of ancient life 00:16:45.490 --> 00:16:46.690 align:middle line:90% here at Snow Creek. 00:16:46.690 --> 00:16:48.185 align:middle line:84% This is an Indian bedrock mortar. 00:16:48.185 --> 00:16:49.810 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: There it is, right there. 00:16:49.810 --> 00:16:52.060 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: And you can see these holes 00:16:52.060 --> 00:16:56.800 align:middle line:84% where someone ground grain to make bread, or to make meal. 00:16:56.800 --> 00:17:00.170 align:middle line:84% And what a beautiful place to do it, with this beautiful view. 00:17:00.170 --> 00:17:02.710 align:middle line:84% Imagine, thousands of years ago someone 00:17:02.710 --> 00:17:05.750 align:middle line:84% was sitting here, grinding grain into meal. 00:17:05.750 --> 00:17:09.276 align:middle line:84% And they had a place to live, they had water running nearby. 00:17:09.276 --> 00:17:11.859 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Yeah, because we haven't even talked about this, 00:17:11.859 --> 00:17:15.040 align:middle line:84% but all of this big green belt that just kind of comes 00:17:15.040 --> 00:17:18.700 align:middle line:84% right down off the mountain here with all these trees, 00:17:18.700 --> 00:17:22.150 align:middle line:84% represents there's still water here, lots of it. 00:17:22.150 --> 00:17:24.369 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: This is proof that the ancient Indians 00:17:24.369 --> 00:17:28.190 align:middle line:84% had the best real estate in the desert. 00:17:28.190 --> 00:17:30.440 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: I've never heard it put that way before. 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:31.030 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's good. 00:17:31.030 --> 00:17:32.140 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Yeah. 00:17:32.140 --> 00:17:33.790 align:middle line:84% All right, we're finished up here. 00:17:33.790 --> 00:17:35.440 align:middle line:90% We've still got a lot to do. 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:36.960 align:middle line:90% There is the little town-- 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:38.230 align:middle line:90% the little community. 00:17:38.230 --> 00:17:40.000 align:middle line:84% You don't really call it a town, do you? 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:41.965 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: No, it's not quite big enough to be a town. 00:17:41.965 --> 00:17:43.110 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] We call it a village. 00:17:43.110 --> 00:17:44.110 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: A village. 00:17:44.110 --> 00:17:46.930 align:middle line:84% There's the village of Snow Creek down there. 00:17:46.930 --> 00:17:50.080 align:middle line:84% And our next destination is right up to the left. 00:17:50.080 --> 00:17:54.310 align:middle line:84% We're going to go up into that canyon 00:17:54.310 --> 00:17:56.110 align:middle line:90% and see what it has to offer. 00:17:56.110 --> 00:18:00.970 align:middle line:84% If it's anything like this one, we're in for a treat. 00:18:00.970 --> 00:18:05.130 align:middle line:90% OK, now we have come to the-- 00:18:05.130 --> 00:18:09.850 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] --to the west of Snow Creek, 00:18:09.850 --> 00:18:12.430 align:middle line:84% to another canyon, Lamb's Canyon. 00:18:12.430 --> 00:18:15.010 align:middle line:84% And so we were just on the east side 00:18:15.010 --> 00:18:16.300 align:middle line:90% of the village of Snow Creek. 00:18:16.300 --> 00:18:18.344 align:middle line:84% Now we're climbing up a canyon on the west side. 00:18:18.344 --> 00:18:20.260 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: We're going into another canyon. 00:18:20.260 --> 00:18:22.334 align:middle line:84% Boy, there are no bad views up here, are there? 00:18:22.334 --> 00:18:24.250 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] They're really aren't, no. 00:18:24.250 --> 00:18:26.100 align:middle line:84% It's just great everywhere you look. 00:18:26.100 --> 00:18:27.850 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: And what makes it even nicer 00:18:27.850 --> 00:18:30.670 align:middle line:84% is that when you look down here, you see the freeway. 00:18:30.670 --> 00:18:33.495 align:middle line:84% Literally millions of people go by here every year. 00:18:33.495 --> 00:18:34.870 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's right. 00:18:34.870 --> 00:18:37.330 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: And very, very few of them 00:18:37.330 --> 00:18:43.300 align:middle line:84% even know this exists, which is probably why it has survived. 00:18:43.300 --> 00:18:45.320 align:middle line:90% LES STARKS: I think so. 00:18:45.320 --> 00:18:48.280 align:middle line:84% And the place we're going is called the Oasis de Los 00:18:48.280 --> 00:18:51.365 align:middle line:90% Osos, the Canyon of the Bears. 00:18:51.365 --> 00:18:52.240 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Oh boy. 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:52.823 align:middle line:90% Where is that? 00:18:52.823 --> 00:18:53.480 align:middle line:90% Right up here? 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:55.980 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, we're heading right there. 00:18:55.980 --> 00:18:57.730 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Huell, another thing I 00:18:57.730 --> 00:19:01.240 align:middle line:84% want to show you up here is that not only were there 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:04.810 align:middle line:84% Indians in these canyons, but some other settlers 00:19:04.810 --> 00:19:08.620 align:middle line:84% came up early in the century and built a house up here. 00:19:08.620 --> 00:19:09.700 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Oh my gosh. 00:19:09.700 --> 00:19:10.510 align:middle line:90% This is the-- 00:19:10.510 --> 00:19:11.926 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] The Van Pelts. 00:19:11.926 --> 00:19:14.822 align:middle line:84% And you can see the foundation of the house. 00:19:14.822 --> 00:19:15.780 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Oh, look. 00:19:15.780 --> 00:19:17.287 align:middle line:84% This-- what is the chimney up here? 00:19:17.287 --> 00:19:18.370 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Right. 00:19:18.370 --> 00:19:21.204 align:middle line:84% Then we can walk right down into what was their living room. 00:19:21.204 --> 00:19:23.620 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Now what would they have been doing up here, 00:19:23.620 --> 00:19:24.490 align:middle line:90% Les? 00:19:24.490 --> 00:19:25.990 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Well they probably came 00:19:25.990 --> 00:19:28.240 align:middle line:84% hear because this is one of the nicest places 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:29.320 align:middle line:90% to live in the area. 00:19:29.320 --> 00:19:31.330 align:middle line:90% There's water flowing nearby. 00:19:31.330 --> 00:19:34.030 align:middle line:84% They have a beautiful view of the valley. 00:19:34.030 --> 00:19:36.070 align:middle line:84% But imagine what you would have had 00:19:36.070 --> 00:19:38.470 align:middle line:84% to have gone through to bring food and everything else 00:19:38.470 --> 00:19:39.860 align:middle line:90% up here. 00:19:39.860 --> 00:19:41.710 align:middle line:90% It's quite a trek. 00:19:41.710 --> 00:19:44.050 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Where are you going, Jack? 00:19:44.050 --> 00:19:46.133 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] I'm going down into the living 00:19:46.133 --> 00:19:47.120 align:middle line:90% room, and you can see-- 00:19:47.120 --> 00:19:51.000 align:middle line:84% even though the even though the house burned down, 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:52.150 align:middle line:90% as I'm told-- 00:19:52.150 --> 00:19:55.210 align:middle line:84% the rock work is still here, and the fireplace. 00:19:55.210 --> 00:19:58.346 align:middle line:84% Everything was built so well, it's just 00:19:58.346 --> 00:19:59.470 align:middle line:90% been preserved beautifully. 00:19:59.470 --> 00:20:03.760 align:middle line:84% And there's even a little food storage locker over here, 00:20:03.760 --> 00:20:05.560 align:middle line:84% where they probably kept the animals from-- 00:20:05.560 --> 00:20:07.000 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: And this is all water. 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:07.360 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Right. 00:20:07.360 --> 00:20:09.369 align:middle line:84% This is water that flows year-round in here. 00:20:09.369 --> 00:20:11.410 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: There's water back there right now. 00:20:11.410 --> 00:20:13.030 align:middle line:84% So it's coming from up in the mountains. 00:20:13.030 --> 00:20:13.330 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Right. 00:20:13.330 --> 00:20:14.630 align:middle line:90% That's where we're going. 00:20:14.630 --> 00:20:15.280 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Wait a minute. 00:20:15.280 --> 00:20:16.420 align:middle line:90% We're going somewhere else? 00:20:16.420 --> 00:20:17.400 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, we're going to go up 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:18.650 align:middle line:90% to where the water comes from. 00:20:18.650 --> 00:20:20.050 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Oh, wow. 00:20:20.050 --> 00:20:21.010 align:middle line:90% This is great. 00:20:21.010 --> 00:20:23.280 align:middle line:84% Who would ever think that something 00:20:23.280 --> 00:20:27.650 align:middle line:84% this beautiful and well-made is just sitting up here. 00:20:27.650 --> 00:20:30.040 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, he did a remarkable job. 00:20:30.040 --> 00:20:31.630 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: He was a real artist. 00:20:31.630 --> 00:20:34.086 align:middle line:84% And the house that he built in the village is phenomenal. 00:20:34.086 --> 00:20:35.710 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: We'll see that one later. 00:20:35.710 --> 00:20:36.550 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yes. 00:20:36.550 --> 00:20:37.730 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: OK, let's go up. 00:20:37.730 --> 00:20:38.770 align:middle line:84% How are we going to get up there? 00:20:38.770 --> 00:20:40.060 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] We got to go back up the stairs, 00:20:40.060 --> 00:20:41.295 align:middle line:90% and kind of onto the roof. 00:20:41.295 --> 00:20:42.670 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Head up the canyon. 00:20:42.670 --> 00:20:45.280 align:middle line:90% 00:20:45.280 --> 00:20:46.374 align:middle line:90% That's where we're going. 00:20:46.374 --> 00:20:48.040 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's right, Huell. 00:20:48.040 --> 00:20:51.340 align:middle line:90% That's the cool-off spot. 00:20:51.340 --> 00:20:53.110 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: The cool-off spot. 00:20:53.110 --> 00:20:55.280 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, that water is melted snow, 00:20:55.280 --> 00:20:56.740 align:middle line:90% and it is ice cold. 00:20:56.740 --> 00:20:58.840 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Boy, you can hear-- 00:20:58.840 --> 00:21:01.210 align:middle line:84% let's be real quiet, and see if we can hear the water. 00:21:01.210 --> 00:21:04.590 align:middle line:90% 00:21:04.590 --> 00:21:07.437 align:middle line:84% There's water flowing all the way down here. 00:21:07.437 --> 00:21:09.270 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's why it becomes so 00:21:09.270 --> 00:21:10.200 align:middle line:90% lush through here. 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:13.091 align:middle line:84% And a lot of different animals live in there, 00:21:13.091 --> 00:21:14.340 align:middle line:90% and thrive on the protection-- 00:21:14.340 --> 00:21:15.173 align:middle line:90% [INTERPOSING VOICES] 00:21:15.173 --> 00:21:17.545 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Is that snow melt or natural-- 00:21:17.545 --> 00:21:19.170 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's melted snow, 00:21:19.170 --> 00:21:21.780 align:middle line:84% although the stream does run all year round. 00:21:21.780 --> 00:21:25.170 align:middle line:84% So it's fed by another source besides the snow, 00:21:25.170 --> 00:21:27.990 align:middle line:84% but at this time of year there's even more water 00:21:27.990 --> 00:21:30.240 align:middle line:90% because the added snow melt. 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:31.760 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: This is amazing. 00:21:31.760 --> 00:21:33.240 align:middle line:90% What an interesting place. 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:36.870 align:middle line:84% And that is an oasis the likes of which 00:21:36.870 --> 00:21:38.409 align:middle line:90% I've never seen before. 00:21:38.409 --> 00:21:40.200 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Yeah, there's cottonwood trees. 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:45.060 align:middle line:84% All along the stream are desert willows. 00:21:45.060 --> 00:21:46.920 align:middle line:90% But the payoff-- 00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:48.180 align:middle line:90% JACK SCHEKLO: It's up there. 00:21:48.180 --> 00:21:49.890 align:middle line:90% It's up there. 00:21:49.890 --> 00:21:53.430 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Our last stop in-- what's the name of this canyon 00:21:53.430 --> 00:21:54.390 align:middle line:90% again? 00:21:54.390 --> 00:21:56.454 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Los Osos. 00:21:56.454 --> 00:21:57.870 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Canyon of the Bears. 00:21:57.870 --> 00:21:59.245 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's right. 00:21:59.245 --> 00:22:01.510 align:middle line:90% 00:22:01.510 --> 00:22:02.608 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: We're here. 00:22:02.608 --> 00:22:04.360 align:middle line:90% LES STARKS: We're here. 00:22:04.360 --> 00:22:08.500 align:middle line:84% This is one of the best views in Los Osos Canyon. 00:22:08.500 --> 00:22:11.080 align:middle line:90% This is Los Osos Falls. 00:22:11.080 --> 00:22:14.590 align:middle line:84% And this is the part where everyone chickens out 00:22:14.590 --> 00:22:18.160 align:middle line:84% because you have to walk over the precipice here, 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:19.900 align:middle line:84% and hope that you're sure-footed. 00:22:19.900 --> 00:22:21.919 align:middle line:84% And if you're not, Jack there will catch you. 00:22:21.919 --> 00:22:24.460 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] You've got me down here in case you fall. 00:22:24.460 --> 00:22:25.751 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: What do you mean? 00:22:25.751 --> 00:22:27.767 align:middle line:90% We're going to have to walk up? 00:22:27.767 --> 00:22:30.100 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] You walk right along this edge here, 00:22:30.100 --> 00:22:33.842 align:middle line:84% and it kind of pinches in here, you go above this bush, 00:22:33.842 --> 00:22:35.050 align:middle line:90% and then that's the entrance. 00:22:35.050 --> 00:22:36.050 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Where are we going to end up? 00:22:36.050 --> 00:22:36.570 align:middle line:90% Up there? 00:22:36.570 --> 00:22:36.850 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Right there. 00:22:36.850 --> 00:22:38.440 align:middle line:90% Right at the base of that falls. 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:39.648 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Is it worth it? 00:22:39.648 --> 00:22:41.230 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Oh, absolutely. 00:22:41.230 --> 00:22:43.660 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Now that just depends on whether you really 00:22:43.660 --> 00:22:45.320 align:middle line:90% feel comfortable with it. 00:22:45.320 --> 00:22:47.620 align:middle line:84% I personally don't feel too comfortable with it. 00:22:47.620 --> 00:22:48.970 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So you're going to stay here, 00:22:48.970 --> 00:22:50.230 align:middle line:90% and we're going to go up there. 00:22:50.230 --> 00:22:51.980 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: I've done it a bunch of times, 00:22:51.980 --> 00:22:53.780 align:middle line:90% but it is nerve wracking. 00:22:53.780 --> 00:22:56.550 align:middle line:90% And Jack thinks nothing of it. 00:22:56.550 --> 00:22:57.550 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: All right. 00:22:57.550 --> 00:22:58.240 align:middle line:90% Let's do it. 00:22:58.240 --> 00:22:58.720 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Come on. 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:01.030 align:middle line:84% If you fall, you're going to land on me first. 00:23:01.030 --> 00:23:01.540 align:middle line:90% Come on. 00:23:01.540 --> 00:23:03.910 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: And we'll both go over. 00:23:03.910 --> 00:23:05.400 align:middle line:90% Oh boy. 00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:06.490 align:middle line:90% All right, so-- 00:23:06.490 --> 00:23:08.770 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] You're on. 00:23:08.770 --> 00:23:10.330 align:middle line:90% OK. 00:23:10.330 --> 00:23:11.800 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Oh boy, am I over? 00:23:11.800 --> 00:23:13.630 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] You're over. 00:23:13.630 --> 00:23:15.310 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: I'm over. 00:23:15.310 --> 00:23:16.450 align:middle line:90% Les, this was easy. 00:23:16.450 --> 00:23:17.860 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Come on, Les. 00:23:17.860 --> 00:23:19.640 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Come on, Jack. 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:21.210 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] I want to stay down here until everybody 00:23:21.210 --> 00:23:21.940 align:middle line:90% is across. 00:23:21.940 --> 00:23:22.800 align:middle line:90% I'll help-- 00:23:22.800 --> 00:23:24.716 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Oh, you're gonna help Troy over. 00:23:24.716 --> 00:23:25.780 align:middle line:90% OK. 00:23:25.780 --> 00:23:27.070 align:middle line:90% OK, here comes Les. 00:23:27.070 --> 00:23:29.595 align:middle line:90% 00:23:29.595 --> 00:23:32.450 align:middle line:84% You know, that is a pretty good drop-off there, Jack. 00:23:32.450 --> 00:23:32.770 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] It is. 00:23:32.770 --> 00:23:35.200 align:middle line:84% It makes people feel better when I'm standing down here. 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:36.866 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Look how far down that is. 00:23:36.866 --> 00:23:37.580 align:middle line:90% That's a-- 00:23:37.580 --> 00:23:39.371 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, and those trees-- 00:23:39.371 --> 00:23:41.340 align:middle line:84% it's another 15 feet down below the trees. 00:23:41.340 --> 00:23:42.340 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: All right. 00:23:42.340 --> 00:23:43.570 align:middle line:90% We've all made it across. 00:23:43.570 --> 00:23:46.030 align:middle line:84% It's time to get some wet water from that falls. 00:23:46.030 --> 00:23:47.710 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Let's go. 00:23:47.710 --> 00:23:49.498 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Oh my gosh. 00:23:49.498 --> 00:23:51.130 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Here it is. 00:23:51.130 --> 00:23:54.460 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: This was worth the climb. 00:23:54.460 --> 00:23:58.090 align:middle line:84% We have all taken off our shoes, just like Jack. 00:23:58.090 --> 00:24:00.615 align:middle line:90% 00:24:00.615 --> 00:24:02.445 align:middle line:90% Whoa. 00:24:02.445 --> 00:24:04.570 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That water is pretty darn cool. 00:24:04.570 --> 00:24:05.903 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Now wait a minute. 00:24:05.903 --> 00:24:07.370 align:middle line:84% I see something gold down in there. 00:24:07.370 --> 00:24:09.282 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, there's a lot of-- 00:24:09.282 --> 00:24:10.531 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Is it real gold? 00:24:10.531 --> 00:24:12.640 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] It's pyrite mostly. 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:13.610 align:middle line:90% It looks like gold. 00:24:13.610 --> 00:24:15.260 align:middle line:90% Fool's gold, iron pyrite. 00:24:15.260 --> 00:24:17.610 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Oh my gosh. 00:24:17.610 --> 00:24:19.940 align:middle line:90% This is great. 00:24:19.940 --> 00:24:21.392 align:middle line:90% Is it always like this? 00:24:21.392 --> 00:24:23.350 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] All year round, this flows. 00:24:23.350 --> 00:24:28.420 align:middle line:84% And it's one of the last really pristine water flows. 00:24:28.420 --> 00:24:32.650 align:middle line:84% Because no people can come up here, it stays so beautiful. 00:24:32.650 --> 00:24:35.830 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Look at the moss on the side of this. 00:24:35.830 --> 00:24:36.970 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah. 00:24:36.970 --> 00:24:39.100 align:middle line:90% That moss is real slippery. 00:24:39.100 --> 00:24:40.540 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Oh my gosh. 00:24:40.540 --> 00:24:43.960 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] I'm going to stick my head underneath it. 00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:46.890 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: I'm not going to do that. 00:24:46.890 --> 00:24:50.285 align:middle line:90% [WATER SPLASHING] 00:24:50.285 --> 00:24:52.710 align:middle line:90% [HUELL CHUCKLING] 00:24:52.710 --> 00:24:57.075 align:middle line:90% 00:24:57.075 --> 00:24:57.975 align:middle line:90% Oh, my gosh 00:24:57.975 --> 00:24:59.475 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Hair of the dog. 00:24:59.475 --> 00:25:02.980 align:middle line:90% 00:25:02.980 --> 00:25:04.460 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Oh my gosh. 00:25:04.460 --> 00:25:06.085 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] I've been baptized. 00:25:06.085 --> 00:25:08.390 align:middle line:90% 00:25:08.390 --> 00:25:10.430 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: It's a private place. 00:25:10.430 --> 00:25:12.080 align:middle line:90% It's not open to the public. 00:25:12.080 --> 00:25:13.190 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] No. 00:25:13.190 --> 00:25:14.150 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: But that's the-- 00:25:14.150 --> 00:25:15.830 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] This is the only way you can see it, 00:25:15.830 --> 00:25:16.720 align:middle line:90% is to come with us. 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:17.510 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: That's the wonder of what we can 00:25:17.510 --> 00:25:19.230 align:middle line:90% do with our television cameras. 00:25:19.230 --> 00:25:23.960 align:middle line:84% We can share this with millions of people 00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:28.910 align:middle line:84% who will respect the fact that this is a private place, 00:25:28.910 --> 00:25:32.000 align:middle line:84% and the reason it is so pristine and so wonderful 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:33.110 align:middle line:90% is that it is private. 00:25:33.110 --> 00:25:35.068 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] For that very reason, yeah. 00:25:35.068 --> 00:25:36.460 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Yeah. 00:25:36.460 --> 00:25:39.860 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] It is wonderful, isn't it? 00:25:39.860 --> 00:25:45.970 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: What a vantage point from up here. 00:25:45.970 --> 00:25:48.910 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yes, you can almost see how 00:25:48.910 --> 00:25:52.810 align:middle line:84% the Indians would sit up here in the cool of the day, 00:25:52.810 --> 00:25:55.150 align:middle line:84% and not fight the sun, and watch the game, 00:25:55.150 --> 00:25:58.030 align:middle line:84% and see where they were going to hunt and stuff 00:25:58.030 --> 00:25:59.454 align:middle line:84% in the evening when it was cooler. 00:25:59.454 --> 00:26:01.120 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So Indians were definitely 00:26:01.120 --> 00:26:02.287 align:middle line:90% up here using these waters-- 00:26:02.287 --> 00:26:03.703 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Oh, absolutely 00:26:03.703 --> 00:26:05.409 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: --and this vantage point. 00:26:05.409 --> 00:26:06.700 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Absolutely. 00:26:06.700 --> 00:26:09.910 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: And today when you look down there you 00:26:09.910 --> 00:26:14.560 align:middle line:84% can begin to see civilization coming this way. 00:26:14.560 --> 00:26:16.750 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: If you see-- you see the 10 freeway, 00:26:16.750 --> 00:26:18.320 align:middle line:84% and all the signs of development-- 00:26:18.320 --> 00:26:21.850 align:middle line:84% the billboards, the wind machines, the buildings. 00:26:21.850 --> 00:26:24.790 align:middle line:84% If we could just keep it out there, and not 00:26:24.790 --> 00:26:28.270 align:middle line:84% let it get any closer so we could keep Snow Creek 00:26:28.270 --> 00:26:29.590 align:middle line:90% as beautiful as it is. 00:26:29.590 --> 00:26:32.020 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Because it really is-- 00:26:32.020 --> 00:26:36.285 align:middle line:84% this is like a little hidden, protected place here. 00:26:36.285 --> 00:26:37.660 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, this is 00:26:37.660 --> 00:26:42.430 align:middle line:84% a part of our natural history that is preserved. 00:26:42.430 --> 00:26:44.590 align:middle line:84% And there's just very few places like this. 00:26:44.590 --> 00:26:47.740 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: And at one time they were all up and down 00:26:47.740 --> 00:26:49.190 align:middle line:90% this mountain range. 00:26:49.190 --> 00:26:51.790 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] This was continual. 00:26:51.790 --> 00:26:54.160 align:middle line:84% As you move around the mountain, there were waterways 00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.379 align:middle line:90% that the Indians would use. 00:26:56.379 --> 00:26:57.670 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Canyon to canyon. 00:26:57.670 --> 00:26:59.045 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's right. 00:26:59.045 --> 00:27:01.420 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, let's take one more look at this, 00:27:01.420 --> 00:27:07.510 align:middle line:84% because this is something I'll never forget, 00:27:07.510 --> 00:27:11.020 align:middle line:84% this experience that we've had coming up here. 00:27:11.020 --> 00:27:14.510 align:middle line:84% OK, we have left Los Osos Canyon, 00:27:14.510 --> 00:27:19.810 align:middle line:84% and we have come back in to downtown Snow Creek. 00:27:19.810 --> 00:27:22.260 align:middle line:84% And Les, there's somebody you wanted to introduce me to. 00:27:22.260 --> 00:27:24.593 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: This is a very special person who lives here 00:27:24.593 --> 00:27:26.950 align:middle line:84% at Snow Creek, Mildred Herwood, and here she 00:27:26.950 --> 00:27:28.430 align:middle line:90% is waiting to talk to you. 00:27:28.430 --> 00:27:29.860 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Hi, Mildred. 00:27:29.860 --> 00:27:30.780 align:middle line:90% How are you doing? 00:27:30.780 --> 00:27:32.196 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: Nice to meet you. 00:27:32.196 --> 00:27:34.550 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Now walking into your backyard, 00:27:34.550 --> 00:27:36.130 align:middle line:84% we stopped and got some of these. 00:27:36.130 --> 00:27:37.240 align:middle line:90% What are these, Jack? 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:38.948 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] We call it sourgrass, 00:27:38.948 --> 00:27:40.260 align:middle line:90% and we just eat these things. 00:27:40.260 --> 00:27:42.010 align:middle line:84% We've been eating them since we were kids, 00:27:42.010 --> 00:27:43.260 align:middle line:90% and they're just really great. 00:27:43.260 --> 00:27:45.520 align:middle line:84% And Mildred has more of them growing than anywhere 00:27:45.520 --> 00:27:46.150 align:middle line:90% else in the village. 00:27:46.150 --> 00:27:47.740 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Do you mind if we eat some of these. 00:27:47.740 --> 00:27:49.781 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: You can eat as much as you want. 00:27:49.781 --> 00:27:51.505 align:middle line:90% [CHUCKLING] 00:27:51.505 --> 00:27:52.380 align:middle line:90% 00:27:52.380 --> 00:27:54.830 align:middle line:84% I don't know if it has any psychedelic effects. 00:27:54.830 --> 00:27:57.150 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Oh, no, it's great. 00:27:57.150 --> 00:27:58.240 align:middle line:90% No, it's really very good. 00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:00.190 align:middle line:84% I know the Indians must have eaten these. 00:28:00.190 --> 00:28:00.670 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] I'm sure. 00:28:00.670 --> 00:28:03.300 align:middle line:84% There's so many things out here that we don't know about 00:28:03.300 --> 00:28:04.360 align:middle line:90% that the Indians used. 00:28:04.360 --> 00:28:06.490 align:middle line:84% But this is one of them that we know that's great. 00:28:06.490 --> 00:28:08.500 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Very tasty. 00:28:08.500 --> 00:28:11.980 align:middle line:84% And we are standing here in your front yard. 00:28:11.980 --> 00:28:14.950 align:middle line:84% And I hope you realize that you have 00:28:14.950 --> 00:28:20.230 align:middle line:84% a front yard that has a view that most people would die for. 00:28:20.230 --> 00:28:22.480 align:middle line:90% This is paradise here. 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.430 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: Well, it's very close to it. 00:28:24.430 --> 00:28:25.309 align:middle line:90% It's very close. 00:28:25.309 --> 00:28:27.100 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: How long have you lived here? 00:28:27.100 --> 00:28:29.980 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: I've lived here since 1975. 00:28:29.980 --> 00:28:33.760 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: You came here, I've heard, as an artist. 00:28:33.760 --> 00:28:35.860 align:middle line:90% You're still an artist. 00:28:35.860 --> 00:28:38.290 align:middle line:84% And this, for an artist, must have 00:28:38.290 --> 00:28:43.150 align:middle line:84% been a life-changing experience for you. 00:28:43.150 --> 00:28:46.180 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: Well, yes it was. 00:28:46.180 --> 00:28:48.580 align:middle line:84% My whole life changed completely. 00:28:48.580 --> 00:28:50.780 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: In what way? 00:28:50.780 --> 00:28:52.930 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: Well, first of all, my habitat 00:28:52.930 --> 00:28:55.600 align:middle line:84% changed, because I had always lived in cities 00:28:55.600 --> 00:28:57.410 align:middle line:90% or outskirts of a city. 00:28:57.410 --> 00:29:00.320 align:middle line:84% But I'd never lived in a place like this. 00:29:00.320 --> 00:29:09.970 align:middle line:84% And it's very inspiring, and it's very sort of spiritual, 00:29:09.970 --> 00:29:12.400 align:middle line:84% because you're so close to nature here. 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:14.110 align:middle line:90% The animals alone-- 00:29:14.110 --> 00:29:17.320 align:middle line:84% I mean, I got to know animals that I was afraid of. 00:29:17.320 --> 00:29:19.750 align:middle line:84% I wouldn't go-- if I saw a mouse, 00:29:19.750 --> 00:29:20.990 align:middle line:90% I would run the other way. 00:29:20.990 --> 00:29:22.284 align:middle line:90% Well, I don't anymore. 00:29:22.284 --> 00:29:24.700 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Do they come right down out of these canyons 00:29:24.700 --> 00:29:25.417 align:middle line:90% into your yard? 00:29:25.417 --> 00:29:26.500 align:middle line:90% MILDRED HERWOOD: Oh, yeah. 00:29:26.500 --> 00:29:27.970 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: What kind of animals? 00:29:27.970 --> 00:29:30.760 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: Well, coyotes, we've 00:29:30.760 --> 00:29:34.810 align:middle line:84% seen a mountain lion a few times, 00:29:34.810 --> 00:29:37.930 align:middle line:90% raccoons in great numbers. 00:29:37.930 --> 00:29:42.550 align:middle line:84% There was one summer when my daughter was living with me, 00:29:42.550 --> 00:29:45.190 align:middle line:84% and the two of us would have these raccoons 00:29:45.190 --> 00:29:49.745 align:middle line:90% come, at least 15 or 20. 00:29:49.745 --> 00:29:50.620 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Really? 00:29:50.620 --> 00:29:52.080 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: Oh yeah, they'd all bring their family-- 00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:53.400 align:middle line:90% the mother of the families. 00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:55.810 align:middle line:84% And we'd feed them, which we found out 00:29:55.810 --> 00:29:58.340 align:middle line:90% you're not supposed to do. 00:29:58.340 --> 00:30:02.200 align:middle line:84% And then we had feral cats, too, generations of feral cats 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:06.330 align:middle line:84% which would have survived except that they are coyote food. 00:30:06.330 --> 00:30:11.740 align:middle line:84% And the feral cats and the raccoons would eat together-- 00:30:11.740 --> 00:30:13.240 align:middle line:90% no fights. 00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:14.640 align:middle line:90% I mean, this was really great. 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:16.870 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: A wonderful place to observe life. 00:30:16.870 --> 00:30:19.550 align:middle line:90% This house itself is historic. 00:30:19.550 --> 00:30:20.500 align:middle line:90% It's been here since-- 00:30:20.500 --> 00:30:24.220 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: Well, I was told it was built in 1939. 00:30:24.220 --> 00:30:27.790 align:middle line:84% The son of the man who built it came here one day, 00:30:27.790 --> 00:30:30.190 align:middle line:84% and told us the story that his father was a doctor, 00:30:30.190 --> 00:30:34.490 align:middle line:90% and he wanted a vacation place. 00:30:34.490 --> 00:30:36.860 align:middle line:84% He had-- I think there were three sons. 00:30:36.860 --> 00:30:38.570 align:middle line:90% So he built this himself. 00:30:38.570 --> 00:30:40.074 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Wow, in 1939. 00:30:40.074 --> 00:30:40.990 align:middle line:90% MILDRED HERWOOD: Yeah. 00:30:40.990 --> 00:30:42.610 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, it's holding up pretty good. 00:30:42.610 --> 00:30:43.180 align:middle line:90% MILDRED HERWOOD: Yeah, so far. 00:30:43.180 --> 00:30:44.900 align:middle line:84% It's gone through a lot of earthquakes. 00:30:44.900 --> 00:30:48.550 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: When you tell your city friends that you live 00:30:48.550 --> 00:30:53.260 align:middle line:84% in Snow Creek, how do you describe what 00:30:53.260 --> 00:30:55.330 align:middle line:90% this whole experience is like? 00:30:55.330 --> 00:30:57.970 align:middle line:90% 00:30:57.970 --> 00:30:59.470 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: Well, I can only 00:30:59.470 --> 00:31:01.990 align:middle line:84% describe it to a certain point, where they say to me, 00:31:01.990 --> 00:31:03.570 align:middle line:90% are you crazy? 00:31:03.570 --> 00:31:06.670 align:middle line:90% You're out there? 00:31:06.670 --> 00:31:10.330 align:middle line:84% When you go to the store, you have to go in the car? 00:31:10.330 --> 00:31:11.230 align:middle line:90% It's dark. 00:31:11.230 --> 00:31:13.150 align:middle line:90% They've come here. 00:31:13.150 --> 00:31:15.580 align:middle line:84% Look at all those animals crawling around here. 00:31:15.580 --> 00:31:18.370 align:middle line:84% There was one friend visited me, and some raccoons 00:31:18.370 --> 00:31:23.020 align:middle line:84% were outside here playing, and he wouldn't leave. 00:31:23.020 --> 00:31:23.770 align:middle line:90% He wouldn't leave. 00:31:23.770 --> 00:31:24.600 align:middle line:90% He was scared. 00:31:24.600 --> 00:31:28.569 align:middle line:84% We had to escort him down the steps. 00:31:28.569 --> 00:31:29.860 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: No street lights. 00:31:29.860 --> 00:31:31.190 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: Yeah, no street lights. 00:31:31.190 --> 00:31:32.231 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: No traffic. 00:31:32.231 --> 00:31:33.580 align:middle line:90% MILDRED HERWOOD: Yeah, no noise. 00:31:33.580 --> 00:31:34.840 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: No noise. 00:31:34.840 --> 00:31:35.320 align:middle line:90% MILDRED HERWOOD: Quiet. 00:31:35.320 --> 00:31:36.040 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: And this-- 00:31:36.040 --> 00:31:37.540 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: You can think here. 00:31:37.540 --> 00:31:38.710 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: --right here. 00:31:38.710 --> 00:31:40.390 align:middle line:90% This is amazing. 00:31:40.390 --> 00:31:42.580 align:middle line:90% How inspiring is this? 00:31:42.580 --> 00:31:43.990 align:middle line:90% MILDRED HERWOOD: Yes, it is. 00:31:43.990 --> 00:31:49.200 align:middle line:84% Well, it's inspiring, and it makes you realize your own-- 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:54.520 align:middle line:84% how small people are, because it's just momentous. 00:31:54.520 --> 00:31:56.260 align:middle line:90% Is just so big. 00:31:56.260 --> 00:31:57.027 align:middle line:90% It's so big. 00:31:57.027 --> 00:31:58.360 align:middle line:90% And of course, I'm pretty small. 00:31:58.360 --> 00:32:02.830 align:middle line:84% So when you walk up the path, and you 00:32:02.830 --> 00:32:05.860 align:middle line:84% see these giant boulders, and wonder where they came from, 00:32:05.860 --> 00:32:08.800 align:middle line:84% and how they came, and how long they were here, 00:32:08.800 --> 00:32:10.074 align:middle line:90% it gives one thought. 00:32:10.074 --> 00:32:12.240 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: It also gives one thought, doesn't it, 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:16.030 align:middle line:84% to the way the natural desert was and should be. 00:32:16.030 --> 00:32:17.260 align:middle line:90% MILDRED HERWOOD: Exactly. 00:32:17.260 --> 00:32:18.550 align:middle line:90% Exactly. 00:32:18.550 --> 00:32:21.220 align:middle line:84% I used to, when I was younger, walk-- 00:32:21.220 --> 00:32:24.820 align:middle line:84% when I had three dogs, I used to walk up that path. 00:32:24.820 --> 00:32:28.030 align:middle line:84% You went up the path to the Indian cave. 00:32:28.030 --> 00:32:31.330 align:middle line:84% And I would just sit there for a long time, 00:32:31.330 --> 00:32:33.850 align:middle line:84% let them play around, and sit on the rocks, 00:32:33.850 --> 00:32:37.910 align:middle line:84% and think about, well, you know, the poor Indians, 00:32:37.910 --> 00:32:41.530 align:middle line:84% when how many, many, many years ago 00:32:41.530 --> 00:32:44.500 align:middle line:90% they were up here, living here. 00:32:44.500 --> 00:32:47.590 align:middle line:90% And it's good. 00:32:47.590 --> 00:32:49.320 align:middle line:90% It gives you a good feeling. 00:32:49.320 --> 00:32:52.870 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well thank you for sharing your front yard 00:32:52.870 --> 00:32:53.930 align:middle line:90% with us. 00:32:53.930 --> 00:32:55.660 align:middle line:84% We first said it was her backyard. 00:32:55.660 --> 00:32:57.280 align:middle line:90% It's her front yard. 00:32:57.280 --> 00:32:58.120 align:middle line:90% What a view. 00:32:58.120 --> 00:33:01.840 align:middle line:84% Let's just stand and get a shot of you standing right here 00:33:01.840 --> 00:33:03.760 align:middle line:84% with your yard, with the mountains 00:33:03.760 --> 00:33:08.260 align:middle line:84% covered with snow, the wonderful rocks, the plants, 00:33:08.260 --> 00:33:10.840 align:middle line:90% the wildlife that's out there. 00:33:10.840 --> 00:33:13.210 align:middle line:90% You're a very lucky lady. 00:33:13.210 --> 00:33:15.810 align:middle line:84% Thank you for sharing this with us. 00:33:15.810 --> 00:33:18.220 align:middle line:84% MILDRED HERWOOD: Well, thank you for coming. 00:33:18.220 --> 00:33:20.050 align:middle line:84% SPEAKER 1: OK we're back on the main-- 00:33:20.050 --> 00:33:21.490 align:middle line:90% this is the main street, right? 00:33:21.490 --> 00:33:23.573 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] This is the main thoroughfare. 00:33:23.573 --> 00:33:26.074 align:middle line:84% It's amazing that we haven't gotten run over by traffic yet. 00:33:26.074 --> 00:33:27.073 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: All right. 00:33:27.073 --> 00:33:28.700 align:middle line:90% You've got street signs up here. 00:33:28.700 --> 00:33:30.940 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, we do have street signs. 00:33:30.940 --> 00:33:34.890 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So this is Hick's Lane down here. 00:33:34.890 --> 00:33:39.152 align:middle line:84% The houses are all kind of just discretely placed. 00:33:39.152 --> 00:33:41.110 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] They're all very different, 00:33:41.110 --> 00:33:42.152 align:middle line:90% one to the next. 00:33:42.152 --> 00:33:44.110 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Different styles of architecture, 00:33:44.110 --> 00:33:45.100 align:middle line:90% different years. 00:33:45.100 --> 00:33:46.975 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Built at different times. 00:33:46.975 --> 00:33:49.450 align:middle line:84% My wife and I lived in this house 10 years ago, 00:33:49.450 --> 00:33:50.500 align:middle line:90% and it was so lovely. 00:33:50.500 --> 00:33:54.160 align:middle line:84% And the owl used to live in the tree up there. 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:55.857 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Oh, look at this. 00:33:55.857 --> 00:33:57.940 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] All of those little elm trees. 00:33:57.940 --> 00:34:00.880 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: What a beautiful-- and they've got a hammock 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:02.142 align:middle line:90% out here, and a little swing. 00:34:02.142 --> 00:34:03.850 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, it's a little-- 00:34:03.850 --> 00:34:06.220 align:middle line:84% each house has its own unique quality. 00:34:06.220 --> 00:34:09.400 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Now when do you think that house was built? 00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:12.730 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That house might be in the '30s as well, 00:34:12.730 --> 00:34:14.500 align:middle line:90% judging from the design of it. 00:34:14.500 --> 00:34:16.860 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So originally this was what? 00:34:16.860 --> 00:34:19.520 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] It was a little fishing village. 00:34:19.520 --> 00:34:21.790 align:middle line:84% It was a village where people would come up here, 00:34:21.790 --> 00:34:25.060 align:middle line:84% and there was a stream that ran right through here. 00:34:25.060 --> 00:34:27.580 align:middle line:90% 00:34:27.580 --> 00:34:32.440 align:middle line:84% And people would fish in the streams, and stay here. 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:34.239 align:middle line:84% The Indians did the same thing before, 00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.340 align:middle line:84% and then when the people started settling in this area, 00:34:37.340 --> 00:34:42.139 align:middle line:84% I guess the first settlers came from the railroad-- 00:34:42.139 --> 00:34:44.989 align:middle line:84% the Pony Express first, and then the railroad, 00:34:44.989 --> 00:34:48.070 align:middle line:84% where they would come up here to shelter their horses 00:34:48.070 --> 00:34:49.822 align:middle line:90% and so forth, and have water. 00:34:49.822 --> 00:34:51.280 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So they're used to be 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.580 align:middle line:84% a lot of water, which I guess has been diverted now 00:34:54.580 --> 00:34:56.050 align:middle line:90% into big tanks or something. 00:34:56.050 --> 00:34:58.790 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yeah, well, actually the water 00:34:58.790 --> 00:35:02.230 align:middle line:84% has been diverted, and flows halfway between here and that 00:35:02.230 --> 00:35:04.870 align:middle line:84% range of mountains right over there. 00:35:04.870 --> 00:35:06.370 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: But look how this just 00:35:06.370 --> 00:35:09.640 align:middle line:90% suddenly becomes the desert. 00:35:09.640 --> 00:35:10.810 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yes. 00:35:10.810 --> 00:35:14.350 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: I mean, this town is abutted right up next 00:35:14.350 --> 00:35:15.742 align:middle line:90% to the raw desert. 00:35:15.742 --> 00:35:17.200 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] We're very much 00:35:17.200 --> 00:35:19.500 align:middle line:90% like an island here, Huell. 00:35:19.500 --> 00:35:23.679 align:middle line:84% The creatures come in for the shelter of the trees, 00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:25.720 align:middle line:84% and the small amount of water, and the little bit 00:35:25.720 --> 00:35:27.094 align:middle line:84% of civilization, and then they're 00:35:27.094 --> 00:35:29.200 align:middle line:90% out in the sea of desert again. 00:35:29.200 --> 00:35:31.325 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: And this is the town right down here. 00:35:31.325 --> 00:35:33.533 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] This is our little village, yeah. 00:35:33.533 --> 00:35:36.310 align:middle line:84% And you can see the houses are situated along the stream. 00:35:36.310 --> 00:35:40.390 align:middle line:84% You can visualize the stream running through, 00:35:40.390 --> 00:35:42.940 align:middle line:84% and people having houses along the streams so they can fish 00:35:42.940 --> 00:35:45.550 align:middle line:90% and have access to the water. 00:35:45.550 --> 00:35:47.160 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: If you recall the house 00:35:47.160 --> 00:35:50.070 align:middle line:90% we saw in Los Osos, the ruin-- 00:35:50.070 --> 00:35:53.220 align:middle line:84% the same man who built that built this house, Mr. Van Pelt. 00:35:53.220 --> 00:35:55.620 align:middle line:90% He built this for his bride. 00:35:55.620 --> 00:35:57.210 align:middle line:84% I don't know the year it was built, 00:35:57.210 --> 00:35:59.250 align:middle line:84% but I think it will sometime in the '40s. 00:35:59.250 --> 00:36:01.650 align:middle line:84% And you can tell it was very lovingly 00:36:01.650 --> 00:36:03.640 align:middle line:90% done, with all the local stone. 00:36:03.640 --> 00:36:06.060 align:middle line:84% And he used brick, and some people 00:36:06.060 --> 00:36:11.760 align:middle line:84% have guessed that this is an homage to the Spanish architect 00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.760 align:middle line:84% Gaudi, because of all the fluid forms, 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:16.650 align:middle line:90% and the way he did the chimneys. 00:36:16.650 --> 00:36:20.130 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: What an interesting house. 00:36:20.130 --> 00:36:22.900 align:middle line:84% And this is so different from the architecture. 00:36:22.900 --> 00:36:24.270 align:middle line:90% We've already seen here. 00:36:24.270 --> 00:36:26.280 align:middle line:84% I mean, this really is a mishmash, isn't it? 00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.071 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] This is a unique house. 00:36:28.071 --> 00:36:29.100 align:middle line:90% This is a one-of-a-kind. 00:36:29.100 --> 00:36:31.016 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: It was very much ahead of its time 00:36:31.016 --> 00:36:32.430 align:middle line:84% because all the floors are cement 00:36:32.430 --> 00:36:36.680 align:middle line:84% so that the inside of the house would stay cool all the time. 00:36:36.680 --> 00:36:38.700 align:middle line:84% And it's just a beautifully designed, 00:36:38.700 --> 00:36:40.300 align:middle line:90% beautifully constructed house. 00:36:40.300 --> 00:36:41.384 align:middle line:90% I wish we could go inside. 00:36:41.384 --> 00:36:43.050 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Does it light up at night? 00:36:43.050 --> 00:36:43.680 align:middle line:90% I mean, is it-- 00:36:43.680 --> 00:36:44.580 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Oh, there's a little light. 00:36:44.580 --> 00:36:46.450 align:middle line:84% That lighthouse thing lights up at night. 00:36:46.450 --> 00:36:47.580 align:middle line:90% But it's that little lighthouse. 00:36:47.580 --> 00:36:48.545 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: It must look wonderful. 00:36:48.545 --> 00:36:49.380 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Oh, it's great. 00:36:49.380 --> 00:36:50.250 align:middle line:90% It's a great house. 00:36:50.250 --> 00:36:52.290 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Who lives there now? 00:36:52.290 --> 00:36:54.460 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Well, there are some people-- 00:36:54.460 --> 00:36:54.990 align:middle line:90% Curtis. 00:36:54.990 --> 00:36:56.460 align:middle line:84% I can't remember his wife's name. 00:36:56.460 --> 00:37:00.360 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: He's doing a USGS survey on the desert tortoise. 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.110 align:middle line:84% They've lived there about a year, I think. 00:37:02.110 --> 00:37:04.110 align:middle line:84% SPEAKER 1: So you know everybody here, 00:37:04.110 --> 00:37:05.830 align:middle line:84% but you don't know everybody else here. 00:37:05.830 --> 00:37:08.340 align:middle line:84% There's kind of a space given everybody here, isn't it? 00:37:08.340 --> 00:37:10.423 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Some people who come and rent, 00:37:10.423 --> 00:37:12.980 align:middle line:84% and they've only been here for a year and stuff, 00:37:12.980 --> 00:37:15.090 align:middle line:84% we know everybody here but sometimes 00:37:15.090 --> 00:37:18.239 align:middle line:84% it goes a year before we see someone. 00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.030 align:middle line:84% We can hear them talking through the trees, 00:37:20.030 --> 00:37:21.910 align:middle line:84% but sometimes we don't see him for a year. 00:37:21.910 --> 00:37:23.100 align:middle line:90% So it's very reclusive. 00:37:23.100 --> 00:37:25.200 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: You give everyone their space 00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:28.797 align:middle line:84% so when they want you to meet them they will meet you. 00:37:28.797 --> 00:37:29.880 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Right. 00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.430 align:middle line:84% At Halloween, we call ahead all the houses, 00:37:32.430 --> 00:37:35.070 align:middle line:84% and we walk with all the kids to each of the houses, 00:37:35.070 --> 00:37:36.285 align:middle line:90% pre-arranged-- 00:37:36.285 --> 00:37:36.710 align:middle line:90% LES STARKS: Halloween is a-- 00:37:36.710 --> 00:37:37.680 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] --for trick or treat. 00:37:37.680 --> 00:37:38.830 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: --fun night at Snow Creek. 00:37:38.830 --> 00:37:40.500 align:middle line:84% We're very proud of these bushes. 00:37:40.500 --> 00:37:42.870 align:middle line:90% These are our Jojoba bushes. 00:37:42.870 --> 00:37:44.250 align:middle line:90% They're so big and beautiful. 00:37:44.250 --> 00:37:46.830 align:middle line:84% We want to keep all of them here at Snow Creek. 00:37:46.830 --> 00:37:49.650 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: That was an interesting transition-- 00:37:49.650 --> 00:37:53.280 align:middle line:84% Halloween is a very popular night here in Snow Creek. 00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:55.350 align:middle line:90% We are very proud of our-- 00:37:55.350 --> 00:37:57.480 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Jojoba bushes, and that are all 00:37:57.480 --> 00:37:58.710 align:middle line:90% around the village. 00:37:58.710 --> 00:38:01.310 align:middle line:84% And it takes them a long time to grow, and get this big. 00:38:01.310 --> 00:38:03.840 align:middle line:90% This is a very old Jojoba bush. 00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:05.430 align:middle line:84% This is one of our favorite signs 00:38:05.430 --> 00:38:09.185 align:middle line:84% here at Snow Creek, the brown fish that says Snow Creek. 00:38:09.185 --> 00:38:10.560 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] And of course 00:38:10.560 --> 00:38:13.790 align:middle line:84% it's an indication that there were fish here, 00:38:13.790 --> 00:38:16.590 align:middle line:84% and that's a big reason why people came here. 00:38:16.590 --> 00:38:17.970 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: What kind of fish? 00:38:17.970 --> 00:38:19.053 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Trout. 00:38:19.053 --> 00:38:20.520 align:middle line:90% LES STARKS: Brown trout. 00:38:20.520 --> 00:38:22.770 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So would there be people still alive who 00:38:22.770 --> 00:38:23.985 align:middle line:90% remember coming here to fish? 00:38:23.985 --> 00:38:25.443 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Oh, absolutely. 00:38:25.443 --> 00:38:28.050 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: This would've been in what, the '20s, the '30s? 00:38:28.050 --> 00:38:30.420 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Up until the '50s and '60s. 00:38:30.420 --> 00:38:32.370 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Really? 00:38:32.370 --> 00:38:34.320 align:middle line:84% Well, let's take one more look at this house. 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:39.060 align:middle line:84% This is the Van Pelt house, and boy, it definitely 00:38:39.060 --> 00:38:41.670 align:middle line:84% makes an architectural statement. 00:38:41.670 --> 00:38:43.212 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] It's a one-piece. 00:38:43.212 --> 00:38:45.128 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: All right, here's another local. 00:38:45.128 --> 00:38:46.816 align:middle line:84% I assume you heard we were in town. 00:38:46.816 --> 00:38:47.940 align:middle line:90% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Yes, sir. 00:38:47.940 --> 00:38:48.900 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Your name is? 00:38:48.900 --> 00:38:50.358 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Godfrey Chapelle. 00:38:50.358 --> 00:38:52.460 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, we are taking the $5.00 tour. 00:38:52.460 --> 00:38:53.305 align:middle line:90% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Oh, my God. 00:38:53.305 --> 00:38:54.070 align:middle line:90% [INTERPOSING VOICES] 00:38:54.070 --> 00:38:55.575 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: It stops here in front of your house. 00:38:55.575 --> 00:38:57.200 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Ah, that's wonderful. 00:38:57.200 --> 00:38:59.520 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Tell us the significance of your house. 00:38:59.520 --> 00:39:02.790 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Well, you're looking at a piece of history 00:39:02.790 --> 00:39:03.750 align:middle line:90% here in Snow Creek. 00:39:03.750 --> 00:39:07.980 align:middle line:84% This is actually the original stagecoach from Wells Fargo, 00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:12.090 align:middle line:84% probably like from 1890 when the real foundation started 00:39:12.090 --> 00:39:12.900 align:middle line:90% of this house. 00:39:12.900 --> 00:39:14.995 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So this was a stagecoach stop. 00:39:14.995 --> 00:39:17.370 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: This was a stagecoach stop at one time. 00:39:17.370 --> 00:39:18.840 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Going from where to where? 00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:20.715 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Well, they're coming from-- 00:39:20.715 --> 00:39:22.050 align:middle line:90% they're going east to west. 00:39:22.050 --> 00:39:25.130 align:middle line:84% That means they had to come appear to relax, 00:39:25.130 --> 00:39:26.415 align:middle line:90% change the horses. 00:39:26.415 --> 00:39:28.206 align:middle line:84% They had water up here because of the snow. 00:39:28.206 --> 00:39:28.880 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Water. 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:30.570 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Water was the issue. 00:39:30.570 --> 00:39:32.460 align:middle line:84% And then they came up here to relax 00:39:32.460 --> 00:39:36.000 align:middle line:84% before they had to tackle the winds going over the pass. 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.420 align:middle line:84% And then there's a history of a branch right across this valley 00:39:39.420 --> 00:39:41.010 align:middle line:90% that had the bordellos. 00:39:41.010 --> 00:39:42.510 align:middle line:90% They came from here. 00:39:42.510 --> 00:39:44.100 align:middle line:84% Which we know dear friends of ours 00:39:44.100 --> 00:39:46.350 align:middle line:84% that have a ranch right across this valley which 00:39:46.350 --> 00:39:48.970 align:middle line:84% is really interesting, and a lot of history to that. 00:39:48.970 --> 00:39:51.220 align:middle line:84% So they came here, they unsaddled 00:39:51.220 --> 00:39:53.370 align:middle line:84% the horses, changed the wheels, they had 00:39:53.370 --> 00:39:55.920 align:middle line:90% the tackle rooms in the back. 00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.100 align:middle line:84% There was the barns, and people were just in here 00:39:59.100 --> 00:40:01.330 align:middle line:84% waiting to go on to their next trip. 00:40:01.330 --> 00:40:04.450 align:middle line:84% And they would cook in there and everything else. 00:40:04.450 --> 00:40:07.492 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So this is the original stagecoach stop. 00:40:07.492 --> 00:40:08.700 align:middle line:90% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Absolutely. 00:40:08.700 --> 00:40:09.930 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Wow. 00:40:09.930 --> 00:40:10.789 align:middle line:90% Can we go inside? 00:40:10.789 --> 00:40:12.330 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Please, come on in. 00:40:12.330 --> 00:40:13.526 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Look at this. 00:40:13.526 --> 00:40:15.150 align:middle line:84% Boy, I like your-- we were just talking 00:40:15.150 --> 00:40:16.229 align:middle line:90% about desert landscaping. 00:40:16.229 --> 00:40:18.270 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: We're just ready to clean this. 00:40:18.270 --> 00:40:19.970 align:middle line:84% Because you can see we had a great winter. 00:40:19.970 --> 00:40:20.970 align:middle line:90% Everything's overgrown. 00:40:20.970 --> 00:40:22.865 align:middle line:84% So our next step is to do our landscaping. 00:40:22.865 --> 00:40:24.990 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Are these are original to the desert. 00:40:24.990 --> 00:40:26.670 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Those are original whale bones. 00:40:26.670 --> 00:40:26.880 align:middle line:90% They're-- 00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:28.060 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Oh, whale bone. 00:40:28.060 --> 00:40:29.726 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: These are whale bones. 00:40:29.726 --> 00:40:33.930 align:middle line:84% And the owner himself, his passion was skin diving. 00:40:33.930 --> 00:40:36.011 align:middle line:84% And he went all over the world to skin dive. 00:40:36.011 --> 00:40:38.260 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: What are these doing here in Snow Creek? 00:40:38.260 --> 00:40:40.290 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Oh, he just had them here, 00:40:40.290 --> 00:40:43.025 align:middle line:84% and I've always left him here because of him. 00:40:43.025 --> 00:40:44.380 align:middle line:90% And it's just another-- 00:40:44.380 --> 00:40:45.880 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: It's part of the lore. 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:47.870 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Yeah, it's just part of the symbolic. 00:40:47.870 --> 00:40:50.075 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, we've seen the elephant today. 00:40:50.075 --> 00:40:51.124 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Did you see the elephant? 00:40:51.124 --> 00:40:51.506 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Yeah. 00:40:51.506 --> 00:40:52.870 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Where did you the elephant? 00:40:52.870 --> 00:40:53.770 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Up there. 00:40:53.770 --> 00:40:54.860 align:middle line:90% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Wow, amazing. 00:40:54.860 --> 00:40:56.110 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: You've never seen the elephant? 00:40:56.110 --> 00:40:56.900 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Well, no, Jacks' 00:40:56.900 --> 00:40:59.316 align:middle line:84% been telling me that for years, but I can't still find it. 00:40:59.316 --> 00:41:02.390 align:middle line:84% But cougars come on this roof in the winter. 00:41:02.390 --> 00:41:03.680 align:middle line:90% Welcome to my home, gentleman. 00:41:03.680 --> 00:41:04.840 align:middle line:90% Come on in. 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:06.590 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Oh my gosh. 00:41:06.590 --> 00:41:10.980 align:middle line:84% Now is this about the way it would have looked back 00:41:10.980 --> 00:41:12.230 align:middle line:90% when it was a stagecoach stop? 00:41:12.230 --> 00:41:13.605 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Pretty much so. 00:41:13.605 --> 00:41:16.139 align:middle line:84% I mean, it's been touched up cosmetically, here 00:41:16.139 --> 00:41:16.930 align:middle line:90% and there touched-- 00:41:16.930 --> 00:41:19.120 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: But the fireplace would be the same? 00:41:19.120 --> 00:41:20.828 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: This would be the same. 00:41:20.828 --> 00:41:21.890 align:middle line:90% This is the original. 00:41:21.890 --> 00:41:23.600 align:middle line:90% And this is very unique. 00:41:23.600 --> 00:41:26.110 align:middle line:84% This is the only heat I have in the winter. 00:41:26.110 --> 00:41:28.570 align:middle line:84% And I have a fireplace in the kitchen, where they cooked 00:41:28.570 --> 00:41:30.260 align:middle line:90% in front of that fireplace. 00:41:30.260 --> 00:41:34.070 align:middle line:84% And when it gets really cold, I've got both fireplaces going, 00:41:34.070 --> 00:41:36.571 align:middle line:84% and it's so hot in here, and it could be 20 below zero 00:41:36.571 --> 00:41:37.070 align:middle line:90% out there. 00:41:37.070 --> 00:41:39.645 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Wow, what a neat house. 00:41:39.645 --> 00:41:42.020 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Another thing that's really interesting 00:41:42.020 --> 00:41:45.170 align:middle line:84% is, when the wind blows, when they designed this house, 00:41:45.170 --> 00:41:47.750 align:middle line:84% like this time of the year, pretty much the sun 00:41:47.750 --> 00:41:48.670 align:middle line:90% is going to go. 00:41:48.670 --> 00:41:51.070 align:middle line:84% That means it'll go right over the roof in the summer, 00:41:51.070 --> 00:41:52.790 align:middle line:84% and you get it in the winter, coming in. 00:41:52.790 --> 00:41:55.117 align:middle line:84% So it keeps you warm, too, with the sun coming in 00:41:55.117 --> 00:41:55.700 align:middle line:90% in the winter. 00:41:55.700 --> 00:41:57.420 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Wow, so they knew what they were doing. 00:41:57.420 --> 00:41:58.410 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: They knew what they were doing. 00:41:58.410 --> 00:42:01.190 align:middle line:84% And then when the wind blows, it cuts right through this roof 00:42:01.190 --> 00:42:02.680 align:middle line:90% going 60 miles an hour. 00:42:02.680 --> 00:42:04.650 align:middle line:84% You don't feel nothing moving in here. 00:42:04.650 --> 00:42:07.020 align:middle line:84% So they knew what they were doing. 00:42:07.020 --> 00:42:08.240 align:middle line:90% This is very unique. 00:42:08.240 --> 00:42:11.620 align:middle line:84% This is a gentleman named Steven Willard, OK, 00:42:11.620 --> 00:42:15.055 align:middle line:84% and he lived out here in the turn of the century. 00:42:15.055 --> 00:42:18.080 align:middle line:90% 00:42:18.080 --> 00:42:24.350 align:middle line:84% This is probably done, probably in 1910, maybe 1912. 00:42:24.350 --> 00:42:27.110 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So this is what it would have looked like-- 00:42:27.110 --> 00:42:29.693 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: When you were coming up with the stagecoach. 00:42:29.693 --> 00:42:31.110 align:middle line:90% This was the old road. 00:42:31.110 --> 00:42:32.120 align:middle line:90% Isn't that wild? 00:42:32.120 --> 00:42:33.110 align:middle line:90% With the verbenas. 00:42:33.110 --> 00:42:35.120 align:middle line:84% This was probably taken in spring time, 00:42:35.120 --> 00:42:36.120 align:middle line:90% if I'm correct, Jack. 00:42:36.120 --> 00:42:37.600 align:middle line:84% That would be about this time of the year. 00:42:37.600 --> 00:42:38.870 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] That's Snow Creek Road. 00:42:38.870 --> 00:42:39.830 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: That's Snow Creek Road. 00:42:39.830 --> 00:42:41.810 align:middle line:84% I'm actually going to restore the painting. 00:42:41.810 --> 00:42:44.300 align:middle line:90% See, this was actually all blue. 00:42:44.300 --> 00:42:48.350 align:middle line:84% But I'm going to restore it, and it's a real, very unique piece. 00:42:48.350 --> 00:42:50.930 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: That's a collector's item there. 00:42:50.930 --> 00:42:53.694 align:middle line:84% And again, one of these million dollar views out your window. 00:42:53.694 --> 00:42:54.860 align:middle line:90% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Thank you. 00:42:54.860 --> 00:42:55.659 align:middle line:90% Absolutely. 00:42:55.659 --> 00:42:57.200 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Which is almost like it 00:42:57.200 --> 00:42:58.490 align:middle line:90% would have looked back then. 00:42:58.490 --> 00:42:59.790 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Yeah, and it still does. 00:42:59.790 --> 00:43:01.873 align:middle line:84% This is how it would have looked hundreds of years 00:43:01.873 --> 00:43:03.740 align:middle line:84% ago when they pulled up in a stagecoach, 00:43:03.740 --> 00:43:06.500 align:middle line:84% getting away from probably the Indians, or the cougars, 00:43:06.500 --> 00:43:09.622 align:middle line:84% or the cold and the wind, which is pretty amazing. 00:43:09.622 --> 00:43:12.080 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: You've pulled out a basket for us to look at. 00:43:12.080 --> 00:43:13.205 align:middle line:90% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Sure did. 00:43:13.205 --> 00:43:14.680 align:middle line:90% This is a real prize right here. 00:43:14.680 --> 00:43:17.120 align:middle line:90% This is a Kawia basket. 00:43:17.120 --> 00:43:20.180 align:middle line:84% Probably this is what they would call a mission basket. 00:43:20.180 --> 00:43:24.525 align:middle line:84% And this is probably, I'd say, maybe 1810, 1820s. 00:43:24.525 --> 00:43:25.400 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Really? 00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:27.358 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: And look at the beauty of it. 00:43:27.358 --> 00:43:28.880 align:middle line:90% It's called pictorial. 00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:32.330 align:middle line:84% And you can see the cornstalk, you could see the mules, 00:43:32.330 --> 00:43:34.902 align:middle line:84% and it's just absolutely a prize. 00:43:34.902 --> 00:43:36.860 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Now would these-- were the Kawias 00:43:36.860 --> 00:43:39.340 align:middle line:84% the Indians who lived up in these canyons we've been today, 00:43:39.340 --> 00:43:39.840 align:middle line:90% Jack? 00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:45.590 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yes, they're called the Agua Caliente band 00:43:45.590 --> 00:43:46.930 align:middle line:90% of Kawia Indians. 00:43:46.930 --> 00:43:50.210 align:middle line:84% So the Kawia Indians kind of is the overall group, 00:43:50.210 --> 00:43:53.690 align:middle line:84% and the Agua Calientes are a part of the Kawia band. 00:43:53.690 --> 00:43:56.690 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: So the Indians who made this basket would have 00:43:56.690 --> 00:43:58.382 align:middle line:90% lived where we have been today. 00:43:58.382 --> 00:43:59.465 align:middle line:90% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Correct. 00:43:59.465 --> 00:44:00.950 align:middle line:90% Absolutely. 00:44:00.950 --> 00:44:03.440 align:middle line:84% And another thing too, to remember, 00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:05.450 align:middle line:84% is that don't forget in the summer they lived up 00:44:05.450 --> 00:44:07.460 align:middle line:84% in the mountains because it was cooler, 00:44:07.460 --> 00:44:08.600 align:middle line:90% and they hunted up there. 00:44:08.600 --> 00:44:11.400 align:middle line:84% And then in the winter they would come down here and live-- 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:12.046 align:middle line:90% same thing. 00:44:12.046 --> 00:44:13.670 align:middle line:84% So they would probably be more creative 00:44:13.670 --> 00:44:15.640 align:middle line:84% when they had the twigs and everything else 00:44:15.640 --> 00:44:17.120 align:middle line:90% to make these baskets. 00:44:17.120 --> 00:44:19.220 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: This whole day, we have 00:44:19.220 --> 00:44:22.250 align:middle line:84% been surrounded in history, and your house is just 00:44:22.250 --> 00:44:23.610 align:middle line:90% another example of that. 00:44:23.610 --> 00:44:25.700 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: It's almost like a grand finale. 00:44:25.700 --> 00:44:27.450 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Almost a grand finale. 00:44:27.450 --> 00:44:29.970 align:middle line:84% We've still got one or two more places to go. 00:44:29.970 --> 00:44:30.470 align:middle line:90% OK. 00:44:30.470 --> 00:44:31.370 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: I've got some more baskets. 00:44:31.370 --> 00:44:32.411 align:middle line:90% Here's some more baskets. 00:44:32.411 --> 00:44:34.310 align:middle line:90% Here's another beauty, Kawia. 00:44:34.310 --> 00:44:35.660 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Wow. 00:44:35.660 --> 00:44:37.951 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] See, they could have held the grain 00:44:37.951 --> 00:44:41.360 align:middle line:84% that they ground in those pestels, in those grinding 00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:42.740 align:middle line:84% holes that we saw up by the cave. 00:44:42.740 --> 00:44:43.840 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: In one of these baskets? 00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:44.960 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: In one of these baskets. 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.720 align:middle line:84% And some of them were so tightly weaved that you could even 00:44:47.720 --> 00:44:48.850 align:middle line:90% put water in it. 00:44:48.850 --> 00:44:49.260 align:middle line:90% LES STARKS: Oh, yeah. 00:44:49.260 --> 00:44:49.820 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Really? 00:44:49.820 --> 00:44:50.778 align:middle line:90% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Yeah. 00:44:50.778 --> 00:44:52.944 align:middle line:84% It would hold water, and that's pretty amazing. 00:44:52.944 --> 00:44:55.110 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, thank you very much for our tour 00:44:55.110 --> 00:44:56.300 align:middle line:90% of your house. 00:44:56.300 --> 00:45:00.620 align:middle line:84% I've never met a man who lived in a stagecoach stop before, 00:45:00.620 --> 00:45:04.980 align:middle line:84% but I'm not surprised, because if it would happen anywhere, 00:45:04.980 --> 00:45:06.600 align:middle line:84% it would happen here in Snow Creek. 00:45:06.600 --> 00:45:07.640 align:middle line:84% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Oh, that's wonderful. 00:45:07.640 --> 00:45:08.480 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:11.270 align:middle line:84% Thank you for coming over and enjoying it. 00:45:11.270 --> 00:45:12.944 align:middle line:90% Thank you. 00:45:12.944 --> 00:45:14.610 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, this is interesting, 00:45:14.610 --> 00:45:16.510 align:middle line:90% and I'm sure very historic. 00:45:16.510 --> 00:45:23.320 align:middle line:84% We are walking through a rather large grove of old olive trees. 00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:24.800 align:middle line:90% What's the story here. 00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:28.000 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Well these olive trees came to Snow Creek 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:32.192 align:middle line:90% from Sicily back in the 1920s. 00:45:32.192 --> 00:45:34.650 align:middle line:84% Some shepherds-- you remember we looked at the barbed wire? 00:45:34.650 --> 00:45:36.340 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Oh, they were the ones with the barbed wire. 00:45:36.340 --> 00:45:38.548 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] And they brought these trees over 00:45:38.548 --> 00:45:42.370 align:middle line:84% by boat, and planted them here, hoping 00:45:42.370 --> 00:45:45.010 align:middle line:84% that they would be able to grow olives here, 00:45:45.010 --> 00:45:46.660 align:middle line:84% and make a living by growing olives. 00:45:46.660 --> 00:45:49.630 align:middle line:84% But the wind kind of thwarted that because it 00:45:49.630 --> 00:45:50.710 align:middle line:90% blew the blossoms off. 00:45:50.710 --> 00:45:53.687 align:middle line:84% So they never really got that good of a crop, 00:45:53.687 --> 00:45:56.020 align:middle line:84% and I think that's one of the reasons they finally left. 00:45:56.020 --> 00:46:00.310 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: But you've kept the original groves here. 00:46:00.310 --> 00:46:02.410 align:middle line:90% Do you get olives on them? 00:46:02.410 --> 00:46:04.870 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Very, very little, because-- 00:46:04.870 --> 00:46:07.210 align:middle line:84% there are some, but we don't harvest them or anything. 00:46:07.210 --> 00:46:09.580 align:middle line:84% The village collectively takes care of these groves, 00:46:09.580 --> 00:46:12.684 align:middle line:84% and waters them, and keeps the trees, but-- 00:46:12.684 --> 00:46:14.350 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Just for historic reasons, 00:46:14.350 --> 00:46:15.460 align:middle line:90% or because they are a windbreak? 00:46:15.460 --> 00:46:17.320 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Just because we love them. 00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:18.694 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Because we love them. 00:46:18.694 --> 00:46:21.320 align:middle line:84% And if you see, around the trees, 00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:23.250 align:middle line:84% there's a way for the water to go. 00:46:23.250 --> 00:46:26.450 align:middle line:84% And our friend Bernie Anderson comes here twice a month, 00:46:26.450 --> 00:46:30.970 align:middle line:84% and opens up the waterways that run along these rows of trees, 00:46:30.970 --> 00:46:32.500 align:middle line:84% and takes a shovel, and make sure 00:46:32.500 --> 00:46:35.180 align:middle line:84% that all the water goes around all the olive trees, 00:46:35.180 --> 00:46:37.820 align:middle line:84% and encircles them, and goes on to the next one. 00:46:37.820 --> 00:46:40.360 align:middle line:84% So when he waters, there's literally, like, 00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:42.475 align:middle line:84% rivers going all the way through the groves. 00:46:42.475 --> 00:46:43.010 align:middle line:90% It's a beautiful thing. 00:46:43.010 --> 00:46:44.500 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] And you can see how it was 00:46:44.500 --> 00:46:46.410 align:middle line:84% watered when there was a stream here. 00:46:46.410 --> 00:46:47.530 align:middle line:90% It was easy to water it. 00:46:47.530 --> 00:46:48.670 align:middle line:90% Now we have to pipe in. 00:46:48.670 --> 00:46:49.420 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Wow. 00:46:49.420 --> 00:46:52.900 align:middle line:84% You all have a real sense of history here. 00:46:52.900 --> 00:46:55.270 align:middle line:84% Look at this shot, looking down here 00:46:55.270 --> 00:47:00.375 align:middle line:84% through the olive trees at the snow on top of the mountain. 00:47:00.375 --> 00:47:01.750 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Isn't that beautiful? 00:47:01.750 --> 00:47:04.390 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: It's impossible to be here and not 00:47:04.390 --> 00:47:06.647 align:middle line:84% get this sense of history, isn't it? 00:47:06.647 --> 00:47:07.730 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] It is. 00:47:07.730 --> 00:47:12.430 align:middle line:84% We find ourselves feeling very responsible to maintaining 00:47:12.430 --> 00:47:16.330 align:middle line:84% this area because of the rich history that's here, 00:47:16.330 --> 00:47:18.580 align:middle line:90% and the fragileness of it. 00:47:18.580 --> 00:47:19.310 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: OK. 00:47:19.310 --> 00:47:21.610 align:middle line:84% We are ending up where we started 00:47:21.610 --> 00:47:24.250 align:middle line:84% at 8 o'clock this morning, with Linda, 00:47:24.250 --> 00:47:26.530 align:middle line:90% at Linda and Jack's house. 00:47:26.530 --> 00:47:29.050 align:middle line:84% Linda, we have had a wonderful day. 00:47:29.050 --> 00:47:30.087 align:middle line:90% Have you heard? 00:47:30.087 --> 00:47:31.420 align:middle line:90% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] I've heard. 00:47:31.420 --> 00:47:32.810 align:middle line:90% I could feel it. 00:47:32.810 --> 00:47:35.050 align:middle line:84% You know, today how it all started, 00:47:35.050 --> 00:47:36.700 align:middle line:84% and how you got it all sorted out, 00:47:36.700 --> 00:47:38.810 align:middle line:90% and where you want it to go. 00:47:38.810 --> 00:47:40.660 align:middle line:84% And it just started off right, and I 00:47:40.660 --> 00:47:43.519 align:middle line:84% knew you guys were just going through all the canyons, 00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:45.310 align:middle line:84% and it could have been quite an experience. 00:47:45.310 --> 00:47:48.520 align:middle line:84% Because I haven't been through those canyons twice in one day. 00:47:48.520 --> 00:47:51.030 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Yeah, we've been through two canyons. 00:47:51.030 --> 00:47:51.630 align:middle line:84% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] That's right. 00:47:51.630 --> 00:47:54.460 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: But your husband and Les were wonderful tour 00:47:54.460 --> 00:47:58.870 align:middle line:84% guides, and they really gave us a feeling of how wonderful it 00:47:58.870 --> 00:48:01.867 align:middle line:90% must be to live in this place. 00:48:01.867 --> 00:48:03.700 align:middle line:84% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] Well, there's something 00:48:03.700 --> 00:48:07.790 align:middle line:84% sacred to it because it hasn't changed that much. 00:48:07.790 --> 00:48:11.710 align:middle line:84% And when you leave nature alone, and you kind of 00:48:11.710 --> 00:48:14.860 align:middle line:84% live amongst it, it takes a little more effort, 00:48:14.860 --> 00:48:17.320 align:middle line:84% because you're living outside of the city. 00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:19.510 align:middle line:84% But there's something very sacred about it 00:48:19.510 --> 00:48:20.800 align:middle line:90% that's beautiful. 00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.120 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, we've just been here for a day, 00:48:24.120 --> 00:48:26.230 align:middle line:90% but we have picked up on that. 00:48:26.230 --> 00:48:27.190 align:middle line:90% You can feel it. 00:48:27.190 --> 00:48:28.270 align:middle line:90% It's everywhere. 00:48:28.270 --> 00:48:31.930 align:middle line:84% And the love that the residents have for this place 00:48:31.930 --> 00:48:33.521 align:middle line:90% is overwhelming. 00:48:33.521 --> 00:48:35.020 align:middle line:84% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] Yes, it's nice, 00:48:35.020 --> 00:48:40.330 align:middle line:84% because every one is different, and they 00:48:40.330 --> 00:48:44.710 align:middle line:84% respect each other's privacy, but everybody knows everybody. 00:48:44.710 --> 00:48:47.860 align:middle line:84% So you could call on anybody here if you forgot something 00:48:47.860 --> 00:48:48.490 align:middle line:90% at this store. 00:48:48.490 --> 00:48:49.990 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: It's a real community. 00:48:49.990 --> 00:48:50.890 align:middle line:90% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] Yes, it is. 00:48:50.890 --> 00:48:53.530 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, you didn't forget anything at the store. 00:48:53.530 --> 00:48:55.780 align:middle line:84% We're having a wonderful vegetarian 00:48:55.780 --> 00:48:56.764 align:middle line:90% meal here today, right? 00:48:56.764 --> 00:48:58.180 align:middle line:84% [? LINDA SCHEKLO: ?] That's right. 00:48:58.180 --> 00:48:59.846 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: And I am not a vegetarian. 00:48:59.846 --> 00:49:02.180 align:middle line:84% I'd just as soon have a big old juicy steak right now, 00:49:02.180 --> 00:49:04.990 align:middle line:84% but I'm telling you, after all we've been through today, all 00:49:04.990 --> 00:49:06.640 align:middle line:90% the hiking we've been through-- 00:49:06.640 --> 00:49:07.810 align:middle line:84% LINDA SCHEKLO: I bet you guys are hungry. 00:49:07.810 --> 00:49:09.518 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: --that lettuce looks great. 00:49:09.518 --> 00:49:11.290 align:middle line:90% Come on, let's go over here. 00:49:11.290 --> 00:49:14.770 align:middle line:84% And look at where we're ending up the day. 00:49:14.770 --> 00:49:16.760 align:middle line:84% It doesn't get any nicer than this. 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:18.100 align:middle line:90% We're all seated out here. 00:49:18.100 --> 00:49:19.960 align:middle line:90% The birds are singing. 00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:21.390 align:middle line:90% The breeze is blowing. 00:49:21.390 --> 00:49:23.460 align:middle line:90% Jack, it's been a wonderful day. 00:49:23.460 --> 00:49:25.510 align:middle line:84% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Well, it has, and we really 00:49:25.510 --> 00:49:27.730 align:middle line:90% enjoyed sharing it with you. 00:49:27.730 --> 00:49:30.830 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Well, it's very mellow right now, 00:49:30.830 --> 00:49:33.340 align:middle line:84% but that's kind of the way it is out here, isn't it? 00:49:33.340 --> 00:49:34.340 align:middle line:90% [? JACK SCHEKLO: ?] Yes. 00:49:34.340 --> 00:49:38.260 align:middle line:84% The evenings-- later in the day, it just gets quiet, 00:49:38.260 --> 00:49:39.850 align:middle line:84% and it's just beautiful and peaceful, 00:49:39.850 --> 00:49:43.426 align:middle line:84% and we're experiencing it right now. 00:49:43.426 --> 00:49:44.800 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Thank you, Godfrey, 00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:45.884 align:middle line:90% for showing us your house. 00:49:45.884 --> 00:49:47.008 align:middle line:90% GODFREY CHAPELLE: Pleasure. 00:49:47.008 --> 00:49:49.150 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Les, what a great day this has been. 00:49:49.150 --> 00:49:50.895 align:middle line:84% LES STARKS: Yeah, it's been lots of fun. 00:49:50.895 --> 00:49:53.590 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: Mildred, thank you for showing us your house. 00:49:53.590 --> 00:49:54.250 align:middle line:90% MILDRED HERWOOD: You're welcome. 00:49:54.250 --> 00:49:55.125 align:middle line:90% It's a real pleasure. 00:49:55.125 --> 00:49:57.940 align:middle line:84% HUELL HOWSER: She's got the most spectacular front yard 00:49:57.940 --> 00:49:58.570 align:middle line:90% in the world. 00:49:58.570 --> 00:49:59.840 align:middle line:90% [CHUCKLING] 00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:01.870 align:middle line:90% HUELL HOWSER: Jack, thanks. 00:50:01.870 --> 00:50:03.490 align:middle line:90% Linda, thanks. 00:50:03.490 --> 00:50:06.640 align:middle line:84% This has been an absolutely wonderful day, 00:50:06.640 --> 00:50:09.200 align:middle line:84% a day that I don't think we will ever forget. 00:50:09.200 --> 00:50:15.060 align:middle line:84% I have been driving up and down Highway 111 for years, 00:50:15.060 --> 00:50:18.930 align:middle line:84% speeding into Palm Springs, never realizing 00:50:18.930 --> 00:50:21.030 align:middle line:84% that this wonderful, wonderful place called 00:50:21.030 --> 00:50:23.010 align:middle line:90% Snow Creek existed. 00:50:23.010 --> 00:50:25.050 align:middle line:84% We have found out today that it is here, 00:50:25.050 --> 00:50:28.090 align:middle line:84% it has been here for thousands of years, 00:50:28.090 --> 00:50:31.560 align:middle line:84% and the people who live here now continue 00:50:31.560 --> 00:50:35.400 align:middle line:84% the tradition of respect and love for the land, 00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:36.930 align:middle line:90% for the desert. 00:50:36.930 --> 00:50:42.110 align:middle line:84% And hopefully it will always be this wonderful, wonderful place 00:50:42.110 --> 00:50:43.920 align:middle line:90% called Snow Creek. 00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:46.320 align:middle line:90% [BIRDS CHIRPING] 00:50:46.320 --> 00:51:07.920 align:middle line:90% 00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:11.270 align:middle line:90% [WATER RUNNING] 00:51:11.270 --> 00:51:46.552 align:middle line:90%